Yamaha's Latest Silent Brass
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Yamaha's Latest Silent Brass
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#2This is neat!
FYI, they have had "practice mutes" on the market for a very long time now! http://www.wwbw.com/Trumpet---Cornet-Mutes-Brass-Mutes,Mute-...
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#3Those lucky brass players! We saxophonists have to deal with stuff like this: http://www.wwbw.com/E-sax-Practice-Mute-System-for-Alto-Saxo...
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#4This is cool, and a great improvement over the previous generation Yamaha product. However, "Brass Resonance Modeling" may be confusing to some non-tech savvy consumers as it sounds similar to "physical modeling," a method of synthesis. The technology improvements are not synthesis, but rather a non-generative process more similar to a pair of noise-canceling headphones.
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#5Those lucky brass players! We saxophonists have to deal with stuff like this: http://www.wwbw.com/E-sax-Practice-Mute-System-for-Alto-Saxo...
I remember a tenor sax hanging off my neck was enough work let alone having its entire hard case attached :) It seems, to me, the best solution for all of these issues is just to rent a practice space and go play until your cheeks and lips fall off. I am pretty amazed with how the trumpet output sounds through that Yamaha mute, though - it looks like you could even circuit bend that gadget to do some nasty things to a trumpet's tone.
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#6Those lucky brass players! We saxophonists have to deal with stuff like this: http://www.wwbw.com/E-sax-Practice-Mute-System-for-Alto-Saxo...
Fellow sax player here. I've never seen anyone use one of those.
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#7Those lucky brass players! We saxophonists have to deal with stuff like this: http://www.wwbw.com/E-sax-Practice-Mute-System-for-Alto-Saxo...
I remember a tenor sax hanging off my neck was enough work let alone having its entire hard case attached :) It seems, to me, the best solution for all of these issues is just to rent a practice space and go play until your cheeks and lips fall off. I am pretty amazed with how the trumpet output sounds through that Yamaha mute, though - it looks like you could even circuit bend that gadget to do some nasty things to…
Yeah, it really is remarkable! Synthesized brass/winds are generally quite bad. I was very skeptical, but watching the video changed my mind. I do have an old trumpet lying around...
I did see a video for the sax case where a person had it mounted on some kind of stand, so that's probably a lot more feasible!
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#8I have an original first generation Yamaha Silent Brass for trumpet. This page doesn't show one or even really compare the new one to the old one. It's freaking enormous! I think it juts out of the bell of a trumpet a good 6 inches at least, and the amplifier is pretty darn big too ... the size of a paperback book.
This page doesn't say anything about the back pressure from the mute. I wonder if it's any different from the original. I used the silent brass all through college and didn't have many opportunities to play without it, and frankly it screwed up my playing.
Here's a picture of the original from 1995 http://www.yamaha.com/design/award/images/img_sb-7.jpg
Re: Yamaha's Latest Silent Brass
#9This is cool, and a great improvement over the previous generation Yamaha product. However, "Brass Resonance Modeling" may be confusing to some non-tech savvy consumers as it sounds similar to "physical modeling," a method of synthesis. The technology improvements are not synthesis, but rather a non-generative process more similar to a pair of noise-canceling headphones.
Can you cite any more specific info? I'm very curious. From the demos, the sound externally and direct is pretty much equivalent to the silent brass system I picked up in 1999, but without that huge bulb sticking out of the bell of course!
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember a tenor sax hanging off my neck was enough work let alone having its entire hard case attached :) It seems, to me, the best solution for all of these issues is just to rent a practice space and go play until your cheeks and lips fall off. I am pretty amazed with how the trumpet output sounds through that Yamaha mute, though - it looks like you could even circuit bend that gadget to do some nasty things to…
Yeah, it really is remarkable! Synthesized brass/winds are generally quite bad. I was very skeptical, but watching the video changed my mind. I do have an old trumpet lying around... I did see a video for the sax case where a person had it mounted on some kind of stand, so that's probably a lot more feasible!
I don't think they're actually synthesizing anything in the traditional sense...just essentially using a DSP to convert sound in the bell to natural room sound.