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Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#51

Post by timae »

naveenspark wrote: post #50

This feels gimmicky. How does this help solve real issues with admission control? The idea of admitting based on a face vs. a barcode for a reserved show won't work. Assuming this is for GA only? Why not just allow users to import photos from instagram, FB or similar? Are you going to make these photos available in bulk fashion to event organizers? I can see how this might be interesting for attendees to stalk who el…

Look, you created Immunity Project. That's pretty cool and coming from that perspective, I can see why you think Selfie Ticket doesn't need emotion its positioning. However, we think we're onto something with this and it's not meant to be a gimmick.

If you're simply trying to sell tickets online (i.e. process a credit card and hand out a barcode) there are plenty of solutions for that, as you suggest. Ticketing platforms are built around the transaction and they do a good job of it (we were in this group too). However, there is a much larger population of people out there (whether they are creating events yet or not) that are trying to build and grow a community around something they're doing. The best way to build connections with someone? In person.

That's the type of event we're building for. One that's used to grow a community. And for that purpose, scanning barcodes sucks. It's un-human at the worst time, when you're trying to build human connections.

Hope that gives some background for our thought process behind telling the story the way we have.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#52

Post by naveenspark »

timae wrote: post #51
naveenspark wrote: post #50

This feels gimmicky. How does this help solve real issues with admission control? The idea of admitting based on a face vs. a barcode for a reserved show won't work. Assuming this is for GA only? Why not just allow users to import photos from instagram, FB or similar? Are you going to make these photos available in bulk fashion to event organizers? I can see how this might be interesting for attendees to stalk who el…

Look, you created Immunity Project. That's pretty cool and coming from that perspective, I can see why you think Selfie Ticket doesn't need emotion its positioning. However, we think we're onto something with this and it's not meant to be a gimmick. If you're simply trying to sell tickets online (i.e. process a credit card and hand out a barcode) there are plenty of solutions for that, as you suggest. Ticketing platf…

Apologies if my post felt unnecessarily snarky. Yes I am cofounder @ Immunity Project, but I previously helped create Redbox Tickets so I have that hat on for this thread. My opinion on the video aside, when you have a line of people in front of you trying to get into an event, how does this help build community? You have such little time with each person because your #1 focus is getting them in the building. Even if its a small event you want people spending more time in the event not chatting with the ticket taker. What is the roadmap like for this feature? Perhaps that will help me better understand the value prop.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#53

Post by jordan_clark »

seniorsassycat wrote: post #48

What prevents me from creating a app that looks like yours and displays my selfie without buying a ticket?

You bring up a valid point. Presenting a picture as the only means for authentication removes the benefit of digitized confirmation. Pics on the app store link appear to show a clock of some sort over the picture, but even that could be easily recreated.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#54

Post by elwell »

seniorsassycat wrote: post #48

What prevents me from creating a app that looks like yours and displays my selfie without buying a ticket?

Yeah. Just dreaming, but it would be cool if the event organizer could use their phone's camera aimed at the guest to face recognize them and match them to the db of guest snapped pics. Would be too difficult to get required accuracy right now, but maybe in future.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#55

Post by corydominguez »

seniorsassycat wrote: post #48

What prevents me from creating a app that looks like yours and displays my selfie without buying a ticket?

I don't know exactly how it works, but the page shows animations over the ticket information, these could be customizable or rotated during the event by the event organizer making them very difficult to fake.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#56

Post by _garrett »

jordan_clark wrote: post #53
seniorsassycat wrote: post #48

What prevents me from creating a app that looks like yours and displays my selfie without buying a ticket?

You bring up a valid point. Presenting a picture as the only means for authentication removes the benefit of digitized confirmation. Pics on the app store link appear to show a clock of some sort over the picture, but even that could be easily recreated.

You could add a visual icon as a sort of two-factor authentication. Set the icon to change every few minutes and do a push notification with the current icon to the people at the door.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#57

Post by timae »

naveenspark wrote: post #52
timae wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, you created Immunity Project. That's pretty cool and coming from that perspective, I can see why you think Selfie Ticket doesn't need emotion its positioning. However, we think we're onto something with this and it's not meant to be a gimmick. If you're simply trying to sell tickets online (i.e. process a credit card and hand out a barcode) there are plenty of solutions for that, as you suggest. Ticketing platf…

Apologies if my post felt unnecessarily snarky. Yes I am cofounder @ Immunity Project, but I previously helped create Redbox Tickets so I have that hat on for this thread. My opinion on the video aside, when you have a line of people in front of you trying to get into an event, how does this help build community? You have such little time with each person because your #1 focus is getting them in the building. Even if…

You're right! The feature doesn't end by simply getting into the event. Stay tuned.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

#58

Post by timae »

cdcarter wrote: post #33

How does the organizer/door attendant mark the patron as attended? Is this done on the user's personal cell phone, or is there another device at the door?

Reporting in the app tells them how many have activated their Selfie Ticket. You can only activate it in the window 24 hours before the event, so it's a pretty good indication they came.

Re: Show HN: Selfie Ticket

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Post by User8712 »

Kluny wrote: post #30

I suppose it saves small events from needing to have a scanner.

How? A scanner proves the ticket is valid and unused. After all, that's the purpose of a ticket. How does the selfie ticket achieve this? Who cares whether or not you match the person in the photo? It doesn't verify anything.

This is as secure as a printed piece of paper that simply says, You're welcome to John's BBQ. Confirmation number A2M1.

Anyone could print off that paper, or make up a random confirmation number, and they can do the same with the selfie ticket. Unless it's scanned, there's no security. It's fine for your $5 bake sale event, or backyard party for your neighbors. It's just a way to customize your ticket with a personal photo. The person checking the ticket isn't going to care if you match this photo, they'll just glance at the screen to see if it has the event name and looks somewhat official.

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