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Is it fair? That's a moral question. Kinda feels like stealing to me. And, anyway, if you were using electricity at a large enough scale to make this interesting, somebody would likely notice.
At which point does it stop being fair usage of a resource, and become stealing?
Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
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Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#32I'm currently "ignoring" a similar effort in my lab (~20 workstations). I don't think they've broken a MHash/s yet out of an estimated potential ~2-3MH.
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
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Define non-negligible and show us some numbers. Mining is supposed to be difficult.
Here's a back of the envelope calculation. In theory (by supply-demand idea), you would make a negligible profit mining bitcoins. Each bitcoin is worth about $600. If our supply-demand assumption is true, the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. Or about 18,000,000 kWh per day. Or about 9,000,000 kg of C02 per day (9000 metric tonnes). Th…
You lost me. What?
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#34I'm hopeful that future cryptocurrencies won't be so energy-intensive to mine. Bitcoin is already a non-negligible contributor to global CO2 emissions, believe it or not. EDIT: Reversible computing ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing ) is a possible way to have computationally difficult proof-of-work while minimizing energy consumption.
How do you make something incapable of being energy-intensive but still difficult? The more computers have to work at something, the more energy they use. I'm not the world's leading expert, but I don't see a way around that.
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
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That's a dead simple problem to fix. Just don't allow for unlimited free access to resources used for crypto currency mining.
but in a large building / campus, they can't possibly monitor electricity usage per individual or company occupying the space without upgrading the infrastructure significantly.
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#36I'm hopeful that future cryptocurrencies won't be so energy-intensive to mine. Bitcoin is already a non-negligible contributor to global CO2 emissions, believe it or not. EDIT: Reversible computing ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing ) is a possible way to have computationally difficult proof-of-work while minimizing energy consumption.
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a back of the envelope calculation. In theory (by supply-demand idea), you would make a negligible profit mining bitcoins. Each bitcoin is worth about $600. If our supply-demand assumption is true, the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. Or about 18,000,000 kWh per day. Or about 9,000,000 kg of C02 per day (9000 metric tonnes). Th…
> the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. You lost me. What?
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a back of the envelope calculation. In theory (by supply-demand idea), you would make a negligible profit mining bitcoins. Each bitcoin is worth about $600. If our supply-demand assumption is true, the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. Or about 18,000,000 kWh per day. Or about 9,000,000 kg of C02 per day (9000 metric tonnes). Th…
> the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. You lost me. What?
This is of course a big simplification, and neglects things like the upfront cost of building the mining equipment.
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a back of the envelope calculation. In theory (by supply-demand idea), you would make a negligible profit mining bitcoins. Each bitcoin is worth about $600. If our supply-demand assumption is true, the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. Or about 18,000,000 kWh per day. Or about 9,000,000 kg of C02 per day (9000 metric tonnes). Th…
> the $2,160,000 dollars of Bitcoins that come into existence every day, that's also about $2,160,000 of electricity used. You lost me. What?
Re: Harvard supercomputing cluster hijacked to mine Dogecoin
#40I'm hopeful that future cryptocurrencies won't be so energy-intensive to mine. Bitcoin is already a non-negligible contributor to global CO2 emissions, believe it or not. EDIT: Reversible computing ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing ) is a possible way to have computationally difficult proof-of-work while minimizing energy consumption.
How do you make something incapable of being energy-intensive but still difficult? The more computers have to work at something, the more energy they use. I'm not the world's leading expert, but I don't see a way around that.