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Silicon Valley’s acquisition fever is bad for innovation

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Re: Silicon Valley’s acquisition fever is bad for innovation

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Not only is this argument wrong, the /opposite/ is true. Buyouts are actually the /engine/ of innovation. They're the fuel. The oil. You know this yourself. Just take a quick look at Silicon Valley - it's a hotbed of innovation. If you believed this argument, you'd expect to see a dirge of new businesses & a desert of new ideas. That's just not true. We have wearable tech. Quantified self. Bank challengers. News extr…

> The place is full of vibrant startups & new ideas.

Except that enormous numbers of these startup ideas are all about undercutting existing businesses and creating a race to the bottom rather than adding value.

WhatsApp removed any profit from SMS. Its revenue is a rounding error to Facebook. Facebook will start running ads on the service, they don't have any choice. Now, even if you want an ad-free SMS service, that won't be an option.

Lyft is directly competing against taxis. They do this by laying the liability for what they do at the feet of "contractors" who now bear the burden (and generally just ignore it) So, the legitimate services that have to pay tax, liability insurance, training, and licensing are now at a disadvantage relative to the newcomers. If Lyft wanted to actually add value, they could set up a taxi fleet and provide the kind of quick, GPS response that people want. But, you see, that's real work and won't have anywhere near the margin for a quick VC exit.

There is innovation in the valley. It's just not in the "social" companies.

Re: Silicon Valley’s acquisition fever is bad for innovation

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The second highest comment here (when I'm writing this anyway) contains this sentence: "Innovation is a vehicle for the creation of wealth." So it's not an uncommon meaning. Delusional, but not uncommon.

> So it's not an uncommon meaning. Delusional, but not uncommon. " Innovation is a vehicle for the creation of wealth " isn't defining innovation as creation of wealth, it's saying [innovation as defined] is a vehicle...

The full quote: "Innovation is a vehicle for the creation of wealth. Innovation is in and of itself fairly worthless. The only reason the concept of innovation is so popular is because of the value (and the valuations) we put on companies who are seen to be innovating"

I don't see how that can be interpreted that way in context.

Re: Silicon Valley’s acquisition fever is bad for innovation

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Valuation by which criteria? The asking price of an acquisition, paid in RSU with their value measured in the potential asking price for an acquisition? This seems a little circular.

"The fair market value is the price at which the property would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither being under any compulsion to buy or to sell and both having reasonable knowledge of relevant facts."

Perhaps a more specific question is: what's the valuation in a real currency such as USD, not the monopoly money of FB RSUs?

Re: Silicon Valley’s acquisition fever is bad for innovation

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> So it's not an uncommon meaning. Delusional, but not uncommon. " Innovation is a vehicle for the creation of wealth " isn't defining innovation as creation of wealth, it's saying [innovation as defined] is a vehicle...

The full quote: "Innovation is a vehicle for the creation of wealth. Innovation is in and of itself fairly worthless. The only reason the concept of innovation is so popular is because of the value (and the valuations) we put on companies who are seen to be innovating" I don't see how that can be interpreted that way in context.

> I don't see how that can be interpreted that way in context.

It's not an interpretation...chromatic suggested Redefine "innovation" as "generate money for VCs" and you apparently agree with that as a possible (though delusional) definition by the user you quoted - I disagree with that quote as attempting to define innovation.

Let's replace the word innovation with chromatic's definition in what you quoted:

"[generating money for VCs] is a vehicle for the creation of wealth. [generating money for VCs] is in and of itself fairly worthless. The only reason the concept of [generating money for VCs] is so popular is because of the value (and the valuations) we put on companies who are seen to be [generating money for VCs]"

I do agree with you defining innovation as generating money for VCs is delusional, I just disagree with what you quoted as an attempt to define innovation.

Re: Silicon Valley’s acquisition fever is bad for innovation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The full quote: "Innovation is a vehicle for the creation of wealth. Innovation is in and of itself fairly worthless. The only reason the concept of innovation is so popular is because of the value (and the valuations) we put on companies who are seen to be innovating" I don't see how that can be interpreted that way in context.

> I don't see how that can be interpreted that way in context. It's not an interpretation...chromatic suggested Redefine "innovation" as "generate money for VCs" and you apparently agree with that as a possible (though delusional) definition by the user you quoted - I disagree with that quote as attempting to define innovation. Let's replace the word innovation with chromatic's definition in what you quoted: "[genera…

Ah, I see. I wasn't arguing that the person I quoted was using the word innovation in that way but that they were explaining the same worldview: That the benefit of innovation is the generation of profit.
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