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Re: Project Tango

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Post by aw3c2 »

moultano wrote: post #254
SiVal wrote: post #53

"Imagine measuring your room by just walking around in it." Yes, and imagine transmitting each of those footsteps in real time back to Google, so they can have a map of your room, too, in case they, or other parties, ever need it. I was just having a discussion yesterday with a friend who works at Google about what data they store when you query their search engine. Every single keystroke, including backspaces, is st…

>so they can have a map of your room, too, in case they, or other parties, ever need it. You mean like the blueprints that were provided to your local municipality when whoever built it applied for a permit?

There is a slight difference between those plans being at a state bureau versus a recent snapshot being at a private company that can correlate vast amounts of data from you and others.

Re: Project Tango

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Post by aw3c2 »

frogpelt wrote: post #137
SiVal wrote: post #53

"Imagine measuring your room by just walking around in it." Yes, and imagine transmitting each of those footsteps in real time back to Google, so they can have a map of your room, too, in case they, or other parties, ever need it. I was just having a discussion yesterday with a friend who works at Google about what data they store when you query their search engine. Every single keystroke, including backspaces, is st…

Really simple solution to this: stop using new technology. Unplug. Stay away from cities and other people who have devices.

There is no reason this is necessary though, we could achieve so much with local applications and processing.

Re: Project Tango

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Post by dzhiurgis »

aestra wrote: post #237
Gigablah wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has applications even for, uh, "normal" people. For example, online real estate portals. People who are house-hunting would probably appreciate floorplans or a 3D tour. Agents, landlords or property developers would be able to easily create those with their mobile device.

>Agents, landlords or property developers would be able to easily create those with their mobile device But they won't! It is very difficult to get those people to post more than a low res picture of one room online when they can very easily walk through the house with a video camera, for example. Even large apartment complexes have 1-2 pictures on their website and call it a day.

Nail in the head.

I have chatted with one of the agents about how do they work, and no surprise - they lend out everything by phone, because "uploading pictures to website takes 24 hours."

Re: Project Tango

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Post by aw3c2 »

joebobfrank wrote: post #213
rl3 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose the good news is that 3D point cloud data in context of a public setting wouldn't be much more invasive than the already-pervasive video surveillance we have today. The bad news is as you say: having mapping data of your private residence siphoned off by third parties, be it government or private industry. I would say I'm as excited as I am worried about the potential for this technology. That said, I think…

If you don't want to show something in the map you yourself create of your own home, then just don't include it in the map. Having point cloud data of your home in general is a complete non-issue, I'm sure most of the time the government already has floor plan data for your home.

I am fine with the government having my floor plans for administrative, safety and regulatory issues. I am not fine with private, data-mining, advertising companies having up-to-date point clouds and imagery of my home.

Re: Project Tango

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Post by User8712 »

kodablah wrote: post #22

Here's the best idea I can think of with this technology. Imagine taking a scan of your pantry, refrigerator, and/or laundry room. Then mark everything as what it is (e.g. "box of cheez-its", "milk", etc). Then come back a few days and do the scan again and it'll tell you what's missing. Once you return from shopping, scan again saying what the new items are (even if they aren't what was there). The software would pr…

Speaking of food related ideas, when can a grocery store let me just pick up things, and walk out the door? Why can't I walk in a grocery store, swipe my credit card, then just fill up bags, and walk out? Or pause for a second at the door as it verifies my CC is good for that amount, then allow me to walk out.

It's such a waste of time to get groceries, wait in line, unload them at the cashier, scan them all, pay for them, reload them again.

Couple of ideas...

1. Some type of RFID tags built into all items, so the checkout can read all the prices when you step through the scanner.

2. You order everything online at home. When you get to the store, you swipe your CC, and your order is automatically picked in the back warehouse, and comes out out within a minute. Downside, this wouldn't work for certain produce, where you want to pick the bananas that look the best, or the green onions only if they're up to your freshness standard. However, it could be combined, so you order 95% of your groceries ahead of time, then just pickup the few extras and add them to your order waiting at checkout. This would mean 95% less time picking out items, faster checkout times since 95% of your items don't need to be scanned, or bagged.

Re: Project Tango

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Post by aw3c2 »

tbenst wrote: post #181

My submission: 3D Printing is a big data problem where the data is not being collected. Sensors in desktop 3D printers are usually restricted to simple limit switches on the axes. We would use Project Tango for a real-time feedback system for 3D Printing. Initially, we would demonstrate a simple functionality: recognizing when a print is failing and instructing the machine to stop, rather than waste more material. Ne…

You can do that right now with a gazillion of applications that do photogrammetry. Project Tango is nothing new per se. Just add a stereoscopic camera, choose software and add the analysis/decision-making. Some links to get you started:

http://insight3d.sourceforge.net/

http://ccwu.me/vsfm/

http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~snavely/bundler/

http://www.arc-team.homelinux.com/arcteam/ppt.php

http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/tech/asr/intelligent-robotics/ngt/ste...

Re: Project Tango

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Post by rmc »

sailfast wrote: post #40
ok_craig wrote: post #7

This technology inside Google Glass would be pretty killer.

As long as it's in the phone, couldn't you tether it to Google Glass to generate a real-time HUD based on where you were? (and perhaps also capture images to attach to the 3D model) That was the first thing I thought about - actual augmented reality down to the inch would be quite something.

It relies on some hardware sensors which are in the phone.

Re: Project Tango

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Post by [deleted] »

discostrings wrote: post #183
blhack wrote: post #165

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Good god I am so sick of reading comments like this. This view of the world is just lazy . Almost as lazy as "remember, if you're using a service for free, you're not the customer, YOU'RE THE PRODUCT!", which seems to get parroted every single time there is any discussion related to google, facebook, microsoft, instagram, twitter, or any other web company that uses ads as a revenue model. Yes, google can know what yo…

> Good god I am so sick of reading comments like this. This view of the world is just lazy. I think your view of the world is the lazier of the two--you're basically saying "let's not worry about the negative implications of the things we create as long as our intentions are good". > Who cares? If you don't like these services, don't use them. Nobody is forcing you to use this device . . . If you don't like modernity…

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Re: Project Tango

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Post by dualogy »

f_salmon wrote: post #262
konstruktor wrote: post #111

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Wow, this is an amazing application. I love olympic weightlifting, and seeing somebody build a training aide using computer vision in an app makes me feel like living in the future. What a nice contribution to this beautiful sport.

This may be nice for certain niche users. But the trend I see is companies telling us to regularly buy stuff we really don't need (and obviously throw away our "old" solutions). The world has way more pressing issues than yet-another-gadget. And the planet's resources are not unlimited.

I'm sorry that I'm not able to solve world hunger and world peace. Not sure why that means I cannot take it upon myself to hypothetically build a mobile computer-vision-powered app? Please enlighten.
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