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Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
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Re: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
#52On the flipside, cheers to T-Mobile for not squashing this fantastic app on their Android phones. I love my G1.
It's not like they could (on the handset level) even if they wanted to—you can install applications on Android phones from any source, since they don't have the draconian application installation restrictions that the iPhone does.
Surely you must agree though that allowing these apps on The Distribution Channel of Android that 99% of the users use exclusively, and the remaining 1% uses it as well by default has quite some symbolic value.
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#53There's gotta be a way outside of the App Store to get software onto the iPhone, right? If nothing else, developers gotta test their apps out. If that whole process (whatever it is) were wrapped into a neat little app, an entirely new distribution channel could be opened up. Has this happened yet? And if not (I assume not), why not? edit: not an iphone app, a regular-type computer app.
Apple is trying to lobby the government into making it a federal crime to install your own software on the iPhone. I love this digital millennium that we live in... Anyway, it comes down to -- what do you want more, pretty icons, or your freedom? Right now, the majority of phone users seem to want pretty icons.
An iPhone isn't intended as a general purpose computing device, nor it it sold as one, nor should anyone who wants such a device buy it.
It shouldn't be a federal crime to fool around with it, mind, but this is emphatically not a "freedom" issue.
Re: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
#54Apple is the most closed software company I know of. I see no reason to blame it on someone else.
Re: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Do you not find this completely unsatisfying though?)
I've found that for better or worse, most of the real world involves compromise and taking the good with the bad. So while I'd love Apple to totally open up the iPhone (I'd also like a free yacht) on the balance, I personally choose to have an iPhone instead of a G1 or whatever else. The upside is bigger for me than the downside.
I find this view disappointing. RMS (famously) remarked that he uses open source software, even if there is a superior closed source version because by using it, he can contribute to an open ecosystem.
When I look at the mobile phone market, I am quite willing to use a G1 solely to support the prospect of a handset that I can control. The more people use an iPhone because it is epsilon better, the less companies will be inclined to give users freedom.
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#56As an iPhone developer, Apple vs. developers reminds me a hell of a lot of the MPAA vs. filmmakers as documented in "This Film is Not Yet Rated". The more I've experienced, the more it amazes me how true this analogy is.
Re: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
#57Oh man, AT&T might be rotten, but Verizon is actively evil when it comes to this. Like cackling Emperor Palpatine levels of evil. They heavily modify the software running on the phones they sell, and they don't allow any others on their network. Modifications include: * Shoving their logo into every orifice * Leasing you access to the GPS chip in your phone (or even the E911 data) * disabling all file transfer method…
In fact, most of the carriers here are fucked up. Most of the asia carriers would compete over their services(no carrier-locked phone). But, in US, it seems like most of the carriers are competing over what phones they can provide.
They're competing over how much they can get away with.
Re: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
#58I am quite happy to invest my time learning Android. Apple has taken Microsoft's place as the biggest bully on the block.
I agree. Plus, Apple's walled garden approach makes the more open android market a lot more appealing.
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#59I am quite happy to invest my time learning Android. Apple has taken Microsoft's place as the biggest bully on the block.
Apple has taken Microsoft's place as the biggest bully on the block.
Microsoft seems closed and bullying next to the FS/OSS communities, but its success among proprietary vendors has traditionally been a result of its relative openness - to hardware platforms and devices, to third party developers, to add-ons and plugins and even competing products.
Sure, they threw their monopoly power around by bundling applications with their OS, but it's not like they actively prevented third party developers from making competing products available.
(Obligatory aside: I'm no Microsoft apologist. I had been replacing proprietary software with open software on XP for several years, and when it came time to replace my PC, Vista was so bad that I finally made the jump to Linux. Likewise, I'm holding out for Android before investing in a handheld device.)
Apple, by contrast, has always been fanatically controlling about their products. They ship slick, highly refined products, but the flipside of that obsessive attention to detail is an obsessive need to control how you use those products.
The App Store is just business as usual: Apple exercising its customary full-spectrum vertical dominance of the entire hardware/software stack.
Re: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It’s Likely AT&T’s Fault
#60I am quite happy to invest my time learning Android. Apple has taken Microsoft's place as the biggest bully on the block.
Any money to be made with Android? And does it have an accelerometer? if so I'm close to being sold.