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Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least give me the option to customize the toolbar so I can put the buttons wherever I want.

Sure. You install the "Stylish" extension and then you use CSS to customize to your heart's content. This IS Firefox. I have all the chrome hidden when inactive.

Though Mozilla gimps the easy customizability more and more with each release.

For instance, starting in Firefox 3, the location bar and search bar are a single integrated UI element, for no apparent reason.

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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Tabs on bottom is the current norm in Firefox Am I the only one who likes my tabs on the bottom, meaning under the content, above the status bar? Much less mouse travel when switching apps and then switching tabs.. (I'm trying to use the mouse less and rely just on the keyboard, but its tough)

I was wondering what the hell they were talking about when they said the tabs were on the "bottom" when they weren't - they're still out the top of the application.

Someone's posted links to sidebar tab mod, is there one that actually puts the tabs on the bottom of the browser?

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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post #10

Tabs on bottom is the current norm in Firefox Am I the only one who likes my tabs on the bottom, meaning under the content, above the status bar? Much less mouse travel when switching apps and then switching tabs.. (I'm trying to use the mouse less and rely just on the keyboard, but its tough)

1) For your keyboard surfing: vimperator.org vim-style keybindings for mouse-free browsing.

2) The URL & search bars are for the currently active tab, so they belong below the tabs. Visual hierarchy really helps make things easier to use.

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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Combo stop/refresh/go??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! The Stop Button, Reload Button, and Indeterminate Progress Spinner all represent exactly the same thing -- whether the page is loading shit. You only need one, with a lag between stop and reload to avoid accidental fail. They also finally put the progress bar in the address bar, another Safari innovation. I've used TinyMenu + StopReload + Fission, along with shoving the few UI elements I want in…

"Accidental fail" is the thing that would happen often. Two opposite actions, stop and reload, placed on one button. I'd rather give user two straightforward buttons, than one complex and modal.

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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What's up with the style of the Google search button in the second mockup?

That whole mockup is badly done; the page shown in the browser there was almost certainly copied from a screengrab of a Mac browser without any thought for the fact that it was supposed to be a mockup of Windows.

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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Something the pro/con list misses (and it's kind of a big point) is that distance to a UI element isn't the only thing that affects how easy it is to get to.

http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html#fittsLaw

Putting the tabs at the very top means that they're on the edge of the screen, which means that in one direction, they're (effectively) huge. Choosing a tabs-on-top design makes the tabs easier to get to, not harder.

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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post #10

Tabs on bottom is the current norm in Firefox Am I the only one who likes my tabs on the bottom, meaning under the content, above the status bar? Much less mouse travel when switching apps and then switching tabs.. (I'm trying to use the mouse less and rely just on the keyboard, but its tough)

Personally I like them down the right side. Makes better use of a widescreen monitor, since most pages are still vertical in nature. Also can see way more tabs at once. If you want to see what I mean: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8045

There's so much wasted space on the side of a widescreen. I've never understood why people want them for their computers, as opposed to tall screens. After all, we read across a short way, and downwards a long way.

Re: Firefox 4.0: Early Screenshots Released

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! The Stop Button, Reload Button, and Indeterminate Progress Spinner all represent exactly the same thing -- whether the page is loading shit. You only need one, with a lag between stop and reload to avoid accidental fail. They also finally put the progress bar in the address bar, another Safari innovation. I've used TinyMenu + StopReload + Fission, along with shoving the few UI elements I want in…

"Accidental fail" is the thing that would happen often. Two opposite actions, stop and reload, placed on one button. I'd rather give user two straightforward buttons, than one complex and modal .

Agreed. Merging stop and the spinner makes sense, but merging with reload none at all.
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