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Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Post by macco »

struwelpeter wrote: post #59
4ad wrote: post #11

I live in Vienna and I see these surveys all the time. I moved in Vienna 2.5 years ago. Vienna is a good place to live (otherwise I would have left) provided you don't care about things that are simply not available, for example no real IT sector, no startup scene etc. It's okay, but it's nothing spectacular. I don't understand what these people find so fascinating about the city. My friends share my opinion too. I g…

I live in Vienna too and one thing I like in particular is that despite I live in a metropole with its 2 million inhabitants, I can jump on my bike in the summer, ride for twenty minutes to Donau, Vienna's river, and go for a swim, while being in nature. I can't think of any other city that offers what a world city has to offer, and being able to enjoy nature to the extent that I can swim in its river without worryin…

Most cities in this area, like Zürich, Munich, etc. ?

Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Post by udit99 »

Can anyone comment on the startup/tech scene in Vienna? I need to move there for some immigration reasons and am trying to figure out what kind of jobs I can look forward to. Also, how easy can it be to get by at the workplace with english + broken German ?

Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Post by akgerber »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #57
bane wrote: post #18

The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…

"...American experiment with car oriented cities..." America is almost 3,000 miles from coast to coast. 1500 miles or more top to bottom. When the auto became popular, most people lived on farms. What part of that was an experiment? Perhaps you just meant that in a poetic sense, if so, apologies. But it bears pointing out, especially to a younger HN audience that might have spent most of their lives on an education o…

America was >50% urbanized by 1920, when the automobile age began: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_the_United_Stat...

And while most American suburbanization[0] wasn't explicitly centrally planned, it was very much the intentional result of federal policies such as FHA loans that were initially only for single-family homes (and FHA redlining of many urban neighborhoods), the mortgage-interest tax deduction, and the federally-funded construction of urban freeways.

[0] many early suburbs were, in fact, built by the Federal government, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greendale,_Wisconsin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt,_New_Jersey

Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Post by debt »

freehunter wrote: post #88
debt wrote: post #82

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I didn't mean to imply the midwest is a swampland; I'm from the midwest. And I was serious about the a place in the desert. I wasn't comparing it to anything, the palm desert outside of LA is amazing and I literally want to live there one day. The swampland is more of an exaggeration for the way people talk about why they don't want to move to SF, as if the cost of rent is the only reason one lives anywhere. And the…

I appreciate the civil tone, sorry if I flew off the handle. SF might be great for some, but it's not for me. Unfortunately, SF, Seattle, and Vancouver always top the lists and they're all places I wouldn't dream of living in any time soon. If I'm moving, I don't want to take a pay cut. I wouldn't trade a $50,000/yr job in the midwest for a $100,000/yr job in SF, because I'd actually have less money than I do now. I'…

SF is the only city in the Bar Area that has absurdly high rent. You could live in Oakland or anywhere down on the peninsula for much cheaper than you would in SF. That would allow you to earn a large wage and still pay cheap rent. It's all in the same geographic area; SF is like Manhattan and everywhere else are the boroughs.

Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Post by stewbrew »

fit2rule wrote: post #61
stewbrew wrote: post #51

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Chances are you're a spoiled Viennese CS student.

There are a lot of those here, but no. I'm Australian. I think Vienna is monstrous.

So that's why you were surprised about the kangaroo.

Anyway, do you think other European capitals like Berlin or Paris are any less "monstrous"?

Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city

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Post by twelvechairs »

alexeisadeski3 wrote: post #86
twelvechairs wrote: post #80

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which cities have you lived in and tried the public transport thing if you don't mind me asking?

I don't like to disclose such information on the internet, even if all of our posts are easily indexable and identifiable. I've lived in several cities both EU and US. But my personal experience shouldn't be the driving factor here: I have different preferences from others. Some people love NYC, others hate it. Some love LA, others hate it. (I love both, but couldn't live in either long term) My point is only that th…

I'm interested because they vary hugely. 'Sprawl' (I don't like the term because it implies it is bad) can be very nice to live in and some of the biggest public transport cities (like London) getting to work can be awful. But the devil is in the detail as they say. There are wider economic questions to be asked too - use of arable land? are restrictive planning laws directing worse economic outcomes? are 'local communities' of social and economic benefit? should we be building housing which isn't the most high-profit kind? IMO careful consideration of these should drive development but it's never done.
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