I live in Vienna. I don't understand how this is the most liveable city in the world - unless by liveable, it means "concrete jungle monstrosity - with good public transportation". I honestly think this is one of the most oppressive cities in the world, and I just don't get how it managed to gain this acclaim, every single year. I guess things must be really bad in a majority of the western world. The thing is, the c…
Vienna again named world's most liveable city
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Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#52The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…
You don't think that Vienna is drivable? It doesn't strike me an any more or less drivable than anywhere else in Europe. It's certainly not Amsterdam. The entire SWPL fascination with non-driving cities, or for that matter opposed to sprawl, is just weird. So some people like to drive: That doesn't oppress you. I personally love suburban cities. Everything is so easy: You can hop in your car and be anywhere you want…
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#53The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…
You don't think that Vienna is drivable? It doesn't strike me an any more or less drivable than anywhere else in Europe. It's certainly not Amsterdam. The entire SWPL fascination with non-driving cities, or for that matter opposed to sprawl, is just weird. So some people like to drive: That doesn't oppress you. I personally love suburban cities. Everything is so easy: You can hop in your car and be anywhere you want…
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#54The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…
You don't think that Vienna is drivable? It doesn't strike me an any more or less drivable than anywhere else in Europe. It's certainly not Amsterdam. The entire SWPL fascination with non-driving cities, or for that matter opposed to sprawl, is just weird. So some people like to drive: That doesn't oppress you. I personally love suburban cities. Everything is so easy: You can hop in your car and be anywhere you want…
Certainly there are roads if you want to drive, but this is unlike suburbs where you NEED to drive.
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#55The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…
Don't forget about how it develops isolated and street-naive teenagers in the suburbs who are completely unable to go anywhere interesting without a parent till they're 16 (or older in many jurisdictions where the driving age has been creeping up and rules disallow teenagers from giving each other rides). Remember the woman who let her 10 year old take a city bus to school and back in NYC (something which most any 10…
- Rush, "Subdivisions"
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#56The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#57The more I travel, the more convinced I am that the American experiment with car oriented cities was a disaster that will take untold billions of dollars to rectify. It's affected everything from public safety (e.g. police can no longer walk a patrol), to loss of community (people don't really shop in the same place they live), lost productivity (stuck in traffic), and on and on and on. I'm very encouraged by recent,…
America is almost 3,000 miles from coast to coast. 1500 miles or more top to bottom. When the auto became popular, most people lived on farms.
What part of that was an experiment? Perhaps you just meant that in a poetic sense, if so, apologies.
But it bears pointing out, especially to a younger HN audience that might have spent most of their lives on an education or corporate campus, living in easy reach of mass transit -- the way things are now are the result of necessity and efficiency. While I'm discounting the role of urban planning, for the most part it's not like there's somebody somewhere pushing buttons on a huge SimCity.
Once again, apologies if I overreacted to your phraseology.
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
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Granted, I visited for a couple of days, but I was positively and deeply surprised by it. Everything seems nice. The city is Beautiful. Public trams go everywhere and the transport system is top notch. Cons: they speak "Bavarian German" and they seem to be paranoid about the internet (more than in Germany). They have cold winters as well if I'm not mistaken.
>Bavarian German you wouldn't want to say that in Vienna though :). We are pretty proud of our Austrian German. Winters are cold, and summers are hot, but still fine. Really nice to live here though.
But then again since my German is not the greatest they would switch pretty quickly to English.
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
#59I live in Vienna and I see these surveys all the time. I moved in Vienna 2.5 years ago. Vienna is a good place to live (otherwise I would have left) provided you don't care about things that are simply not available, for example no real IT sector, no startup scene etc. It's okay, but it's nothing spectacular. I don't understand what these people find so fascinating about the city. My friends share my opinion too. I g…
Re: Vienna again named world's most liveable city
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Niiiiiiiice. Da ist der Wiener Humor ja auch noch in den Kommentaren. :)
.. ist eh leiwand, aber es macht kein sinn auf dem wand den bild so mahlen. Was weisse ich, mir ist ein kangaroo ganz normal auf 'm tisch ..