This is a joke, right? I ain't buying new flags...
Not a joke, but probably very unlikely. There was recently a motion to split Colorado into 2 states with very strong support internally, and it went nowhere.
Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
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Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#12How do you convince a Republican to vote for this?
I would think the question is the other way around. It's a step (possibly a small one) to diluting the DEM monolith that his California. Today CA can be depended to field a DEM slate of senators, and send DEM electors to the electoral college [1]. If broken up, then some of the new senators would presumably go GOP, as would some of the electoral votes. It would be fascinating to see the outcome of such a plan. The re…
There is no way the other states would allow california to get 12 senators. Right?
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#13I don't really see the point, is it for a more strong separation between rich and poor California? edit: It seems they target to have a better ratio senators/californians and to get rid of the debt. details: http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/19/tim-draper-six-californias-...
It's for a more strong separation between rich and poor California. This plan would create the nation's poorest state by per capita income (Central California), and I think Jefferson would also be in the bottom 10.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2014/02/05/rich-stat... http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm (per capita income list as of 2012)
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#14This is a good thing. If bigger states break up then there will be better representation in congress.
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#15Previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6957282
That discussion includes some breakdowns of possible voting numbers (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6957513). I don't think it would be a slam dunk for Republican senators but it would be a lot more likely. (dragonwriter's followup to my numbers analysis is important and accurate.)
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#16Good luck convincing the rest of the country to give your region 10 new senators.
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#17The problem with the United States is that there are too many states rather than not enough of them. The states are too small and weak to solve their own problems (e.g, health care, high speed rail) so they have to rely on a dysfunctional federal government that can't solve
any real problems these days (e.g., education, immigration, and of course health care).
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#18Yay! More DMV franchises!
Would this mean everyone in CA would need to get new licenses?
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#19How do you convince a Republican to vote for this?
Take the two top states (purple & blue) and make them vertical (one coastal, one inland) as opposed to horizontal. That would probably be enough to tip the scales.
I do think it might be a problem for Democrats in the first place because CA would no longer be an electoral fortress. Much like the plan to split NYC and surrounding counties from NY state.
I am more interested in water policy once a split occurs. I would imagine some desalination plants would finally be built.
Re: Plan To Split California Into Six States Gets OK To Gather Signatures
#20This isn't about Dem versus GOP imo. It's about Silicon Valley against the rest of the world.