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Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

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Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

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Why do we care? Are we becoming Wall Street traders and "analysts"? What use is reporting or reading about stock movements within a day?

In case you're not actually trolling, here is why. Because a change in market price reflects a change in the midpoint of opinion of people on the future value of Facebook, who are willing to put their money where their mouth is with regards to their opinion -- these are not the opinions of idle chatterboxes. As such, stock price movement in response to news is a very valuable critique of a company's actions. A change…

Buy on the rumor. Sell on the news.

Or as some brokers call it "sell into strength".

It's about profit taking and has nothing to do with "critique of a company's actions" or objectivity.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

#14

Why do we care? Are we becoming Wall Street traders and "analysts"? What use is reporting or reading about stock movements within a day?

In case you're not actually trolling, here is why. Because a change in market price reflects a change in the midpoint of opinion of people on the future value of Facebook, who are willing to put their money where their mouth is with regards to their opinion -- these are not the opinions of idle chatterboxes. As such, stock price movement in response to news is a very valuable critique of a company's actions. A change…

FB after-hours price now down a little over 2%.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

#15
How the HELL did Everpix die?

No, seriously. Everpix DOMINATED WhatsApp on every possible metric: social networks/sharing, user commitment, revenue, advertising information, and long-term potential. Anyone can (and will) switch instant messenger networks on a whim. There's literally no barrier to keep me from telling friends to contact me on Hangouts from now on.

A photo site tells you where people go, what they do, who they hang out with, how they spend their money, and also requires a huge commitment from users since it's a burden to re-upload photo libraries to other sites. Plus they enjoyed a steady revenue stream of $50/year or whatever, AND they could rely on the diminishing cost of storage and bandwidth over time.

To say nothing that Facebook has no photo library feature beyond selected individual uploads (which yield relatively little information about location, habits, friends, etc). They really could have used Everpix. (Or Apple could have finally obtained a usable web service.) But Facebook already has a messenger application. Hell, they have several depending on how you count their properties. What the hell does WhatsApp add to their portfolio, beyond a crappy name and a whimsically unattached user base?

I'm just baffled at this point. I guess $20b for Snapchat will be tomorrow's acquisition. Then $50b for AIM, why not.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

#16

Why do we care? Are we becoming Wall Street traders and "analysts"? What use is reporting or reading about stock movements within a day?

Because it adds to the cost of the acquisition. If their market cap goes down 5% as a result then that's an extra cost of ~$8B, for an overall cost of $27B.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

#17
5% is what, 8-9bil market value? This deal gives out 12bil in stock, so the loss in market cap is less than the dilution of shares from the deal.

In other words, in hearing that 12bil of worth was being taken away from shares, only 75% of that was realized in the fall, making this a net gain in share price (not counting cash). If you count cash, this actually seems pretty neutral.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

#18
There must have been other bidders – such as Google, Apple, Microsoft – who saw WhatsApp as an end-around Facebook's social dominance.

So imagine one of those other bidders had won, at a lesser price. Facebook might still have taken a 5% hit, facing a newly-empowered competitor. At least now, as with Instagram, the threat has been absorbed into the mothership.

It's a rich price, but arguably strategically justified.

The people who criticized the prices paid for YouTube and Instagram were very wrong. Also wrong were those who said Facebook was crazy for not accepting Yahoo's buyout offer, or that private investors were crazy for giving Facebook its rich pre-IPO valuations. Facebook keep chugging along, knowing and confident in its understanding of the opportunities and threats.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

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How the HELL did Everpix die? No, seriously. Everpix DOMINATED WhatsApp on every possible metric: social networks/sharing, user commitment, revenue, advertising information, and long-term potential. Anyone can (and will) switch instant messenger networks on a whim. There's literally no barrier to keep me from telling friends to contact me on Hangouts from now on. A photo site tells you where people go, what they do,…

430mil of network-affect attached users is not 'whimsically unattached user base'.

Re: Facebook Stock Falls 5% in After-Hours Trading Following WhatsApp Announcement

#20

How the HELL did Everpix die? No, seriously. Everpix DOMINATED WhatsApp on every possible metric: social networks/sharing, user commitment, revenue, advertising information, and long-term potential. Anyone can (and will) switch instant messenger networks on a whim. There's literally no barrier to keep me from telling friends to contact me on Hangouts from now on. A photo site tells you where people go, what they do,…

430mil of network-affect attached users is not 'whimsically unattached user base'.

230 million of those users didn't exist nine months ago. Why are you so sure they'll still be there in another nine months?
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