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Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus $3B in RSUs

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400,000,000 active users [0] 16,000,000,000 USD ---- $40 per user That's an incredible cost. We can assume Facebook is paying for the userbase, the app itself and it's infrastructure would basically run itself. It's less appealing when you realise that there's probably a miniscule fraction of WhatsApp users that don't have a Facebook account. > WhatsApp will remain autonomous and operate independently. You can contin…

I suspect they're just trying to protect their market share in messaging, in the same way that buying instagram allowed them to protect their market share in image sharing.

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post #141

For everyone saying this is a waste of money, consider the commentary around Instagram at $1B. Basically the world said that this was a horrible acquisition at the time, but in retrospect, buying Instagram was quite cheap. Buying your closest competitor for less than 15% of your market cap is usually a good idea. Fast forward to today. What'sapp is the dominant messaging application across the world. Carriers hate it…

I'm not sure that sort of relativism makes sense. Making a really bad purchase doesn't make your earlier merely bad purchases less bad.

Don't worry, when they pay $25B for Snapchat this will also seem cheap!

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post #132

Facebook suddenly acquired the world's (if we exclude the US and China) most popular messaging service. I communicate with this app with all my friends, and share stuff that i have no intention of ever putting on Facebook. Everything that once seemed 'private' is now in the hands of a website that forces it users to share as much as possible with marketeers and advertising companies. It's gonna be one tough mission f…

The closest option is XMPP. Unfortunately it's suffered an extreme case of scope creep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP

And it's shit for mobile.

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post #141

For everyone saying this is a waste of money, consider the commentary around Instagram at $1B. Basically the world said that this was a horrible acquisition at the time, but in retrospect, buying Instagram was quite cheap. Buying your closest competitor for less than 15% of your market cap is usually a good idea. Fast forward to today. What'sapp is the dominant messaging application across the world. Carriers hate it…

I'm not sure that sort of relativism makes sense. Making a really bad purchase doesn't make your earlier merely bad purchases less bad.

You really think Instagram was a bad purchase.

Re: Facebook Buying WhatsApp for $16B in Cash and Stock Plus $3B in RSUs

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That is a LOT of money. That being said, I use WhatsApp every day to chat with my friends around the world and it's really excellent. I know it's used a lot in other parts of the world even more, so I doubt this purchase is focused on US markets. It seems that every one of my Arab friends uses WhatsApp to talk to their families back home (and they use it at home, too). I don't know about other regions.

Also standard here in Chile. FB Messenger is somewhat common as well, but WhatsApp has the largest following by far.

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post #60

400,000,000 active users [0] 16,000,000,000 USD ---- $40 per user That's an incredible cost. We can assume Facebook is paying for the userbase, the app itself and it's infrastructure would basically run itself. It's less appealing when you realise that there's probably a miniscule fraction of WhatsApp users that don't have a Facebook account. > WhatsApp will remain autonomous and operate independently. You can contin…

I don't think they want anything. They just don't want WhatsApp to compete with Facebook chat. The nominal fee charged to users will pare down the userbase and perhaps pay off a portion of the cost of purchasing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm no Facebook fan, but this isn't entirely true is it? I mean Instagram has pretty much stayed the same. It gained a video feature. Otherwise the same?

They ruined Divvy after buying it.

What is Divvy? If you mean Divvyshot I thought it was a talent acquisition.

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#170
Damn, Zuck is far more paranoid than I thought. He's going to have to come up with a better strategy than buying every company that presents a potential existential threat though. Especially at these prices!

I actually think it wasn't such a bad idea to buy Instagram. He paid 1% for something that really could have killed him. But paying $16 billion here is pretty much surrender as far as I'm concerned.

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