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No, it shows MSFT's commitment to future revenue and profit. If they were really committed to the language, they would open-source it.
So the only way to be committed to a language is to open-source it?
Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
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Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#42C# and .NET get a bad rap for being created by Microsoft. But one thing that can't be ignored is how polished their development tools are. I absolutely love coding in Visual Studio.
It pains me if I am honest. Our CMS is built on .NET and it's like an uphill battle selling it as it's on IIS and it's .NET. I have played around with the idea of reworking it into an open source language and open source database but I would miss Visual Studio and the language a lot. I don't get all the hate?
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It pains me if I am honest. Our CMS is built on .NET and it's like an uphill battle selling it as it's on IIS and it's .NET. I have played around with the idea of reworking it into an open source language and open source database but I would miss Visual Studio and the language a lot. I don't get all the hate?
It's not .NET, .NET is a fantastic framework. The problem here is you're not just selling IIS and .NET, you're trying to sell the entire Microsoft ecosystem. There are so many MS components that just don't work on the Open Source world. Microsoft makes most of its money with its business products, so it's not cheap. Some companies just simply don't want to pay the Microsoft premium.
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It's in no way in a worse place than, say, java. It would be nice if the CLR and Roslyn was open sourced, but I wouldn't make it a primary concern when choosing a platform for a project. The ecma standardization feels at least as important.
Right, but that's just because Oracle has been such a shitty owner of Java. However, at least Java is supported by more than 1 company on more than 1 platform; C# doesn't offer any real advantages over Java (other than some cosmetic language features).
Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#45What a co-incidence! Fred Wilson posted on this very topic this morning. http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2014/02/inspired-by-github.html From his post: "I was at a hackathon up at Columbia University last weekend and one of the hacks was a development environment that automatically queried StackOverflow and GitHub as you are writing code so that you always have in front of you the answers to the questions you are most likely…
Hmm I wonder if I can make a sublime add on to do this for various languages. I could probably do php pretty easy. Anyone keen to do a node module for it? CSS?
Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It pains me if I am honest. Our CMS is built on .NET and it's like an uphill battle selling it as it's on IIS and it's .NET. I have played around with the idea of reworking it into an open source language and open source database but I would miss Visual Studio and the language a lot. I don't get all the hate?
I'd guess it's because a lot of techies remember how 10 years ago MS exploited their monopoly to force their products onto the entire world? fortunately those days are over and they've become mostly irrelevant, but everyone knows that given half a chance they'd do it again...
Everyone I know for the most part types their documents in Microsoft Word on Windows computers. Sure, they got smartphones and tablets for the media consumption and facebook, but they don't even know an alternative "big boy" OS exists. They think Windows == computers. Which I think means MS is anything but irrelevant (no matter how hard I try to stuff opensuse down everyones throat).
Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#47It will be quite nice if this ends up yielding results for individual JavaScript frameworks some day.
It probably will, but for TypeScript and similar variants where proper type context actually exists. Normal JS doesn't even support a reliable autocomplete, much less a compiler-as-a-service based one.
I could even see it being used to search for CSS framework usage examples.
Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#48C# and .NET get a bad rap for being created by Microsoft. But one thing that can't be ignored is how polished their development tools are. I absolutely love coding in Visual Studio.
It pains me if I am honest. Our CMS is built on .NET and it's like an uphill battle selling it as it's on IIS and it's .NET. I have played around with the idea of reworking it into an open source language and open source database but I would miss Visual Studio and the language a lot. I don't get all the hate?
After trying VS for a couple of projects I found it completely baffling and backwards.
And I don't think this is because VS is bad, but because the way I approach software is completely different. I want to be able to compile things from the command-line first and use the IDE to edit the code. The way this happens makes it much harder to use other tools I like such as Jenkins. I can't ssh to a windows server.
On the other hand I can see where somebody might be frustrated that they' can't remote desktop into a linux server or had to learn a new config language instead of having a GUI.
IIS is another beast altogether. I've had to help customers set up their servers and the instructions are a set of screenshots that are hard to follow and easy to skip. Most apache/nginx configs clients can copy/paste fragments into their configs to get things working.
I could have 1000's linux servers up by lunch, but it would probably take me all day to configure one windows server. You probably have a better solution for this, but I've not come across it.
For me VS C# probably wouldn't be too bad if it didn't require running windows.
Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#49C# and .NET get a bad rap for being created by Microsoft. But one thing that can't be ignored is how polished their development tools are. I absolutely love coding in Visual Studio.
To many young developers these days, and IIS server is the thing your company keeps in the closet to some sluggish legacy monstrosity which has been replaced for years with a better open source solution, but can't be put out of it's misery because it still holds some data that might be useful sometime.
Is any of this true? I have no idea. I'm just letting you know the rap it has, and the perceived reasons for that rap.
Re: Introducing Bing Code Search for C#
#50If you want more info about the extension let us know. There's alot of cool contextual and semantic pieces in there that makes it a smarter search
This is a pretty cool research project. I do not use Visual Studio but being able to search for and use code-snippets inline can be quite the productivity booster. Lord knows how many times I use google. Have you considered perhaps including more data sources ? I'd imagine for example a public code repository like Github or Codeplex will extend the range of possible "How Do I" questions that can be answered. On an un…
As you mention, GitHub doesn't fare that well: "We couldn't find any repositories matching 'How to compute MD5, C++'"