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Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by aestra »

spikels wrote: post #20
amalag wrote: post #5

Looks like it is not very new, there are other articles on it: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-sci-tech... Here is the medical paper http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23112478 Here is the patent http://www.google.com/patents/US20120231422 And this is the picture worth a thousand words http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/US20120231422A1/U...

Thanks! More bad journalism about medical research. Why is this so hard? Is it that the reporter simply cannot understand it? Or it is purposely distorted to make it more appealing to readers? I think it is usually a combination of both of these reasons.

"..misunderstandings and neglect create more confusion in this world than trickery and malice. At any rate, the last two are certainly much less frequent." — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by mesaaz »

splat wrote: post #17
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That research is progressing rapidly: https://singularityhub.com/2013/08/26/scientists-grow-teeth-... I have a high risk of cavities due to my genetics, am 31, and my teeth are falling apart even with a high level of care (brushing 2-3 times/day, flossing, baking soda rinse after meals to return mouth ph to baseline quickly). I'll be happy to pay for replacement teeth grown from my own cells when available.

Do you do a fluoride rinse? That can help to strengthen enamel.

I use Act Anticavity Fluoride Mouthwash. It's good to use it after brushing your teeth right before bed. Don't rinse with water afterward.

If you are interested in remineralizing teeth to prevent decay, I suggest reviewing this regimen by the dentist Dr. Phillips.

http://zellies.com/products-zellies-complete.html

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by voidlogic »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #8
kuschku wrote: post #7

> repair teeth This is not reparing. Repairing would assume that afterwards you've got the same features as before, but replacing nerves and blood vessels with plastic (or in this case, regular tissue) doesn't really provide the same features as before. I'd like to see much more the possibility to replace teeth with ones you've generated from your own stem cells.

That research is progressing rapidly: https://singularityhub.com/2013/08/26/scientists-grow-teeth-... I have a high risk of cavities due to my genetics, am 31, and my teeth are falling apart even with a high level of care (brushing 2-3 times/day, flossing, baking soda rinse after meals to return mouth ph to baseline quickly). I'll be happy to pay for replacement teeth grown from my own cells when available.

Have you looked into having your teeth sealed (like they often do for children teeth)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_sealant

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by yeureka »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #19
Genmutant wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Xylitol[1]? I use it to sweet my tea instead of regular sugar. And it should return your mouth ph fast, instead of rinsing with baking soda with doesn't sound nice. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol#Dental_care

I haven't, but I'll buy a bag from Amazon today. Thank you.

be careful, I use xylitol regularly for the same reasons but I find that it makes me tired and fuzzy if I take the same amount as sugar. I have suffered a lot with teeth problems since a child, but now at close to 40 I have managed to stabilize oral health and haven't had a cavity in more than 10 years. There are new toothpastes in the market that combine remineralizing agents besides fluoride and they seem to work for me. I like Biorepair the best, but I find the Novamin based toothpastes OK as well. The key is to not let the ph drop too low ( avoid acidic foods ) and to rinse after acid attacks instead of brushing as the mechanical abrasion from brushing combined with the previous acid attack can damage your teeth.

Good luck, teeth problems suck.

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by forgottenpaswrd »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #8
kuschku wrote: post #7

> repair teeth This is not reparing. Repairing would assume that afterwards you've got the same features as before, but replacing nerves and blood vessels with plastic (or in this case, regular tissue) doesn't really provide the same features as before. I'd like to see much more the possibility to replace teeth with ones you've generated from your own stem cells.

That research is progressing rapidly: https://singularityhub.com/2013/08/26/scientists-grow-teeth-... I have a high risk of cavities due to my genetics, am 31, and my teeth are falling apart even with a high level of care (brushing 2-3 times/day, flossing, baking soda rinse after meals to return mouth ph to baseline quickly). I'll be happy to pay for replacement teeth grown from my own cells when available.

Have you tried Stevia?

It grows really well in my backyard. Smells badly(but tastes sweet) but is a great sugar replacement for making lemonade or ice cream or sweets without the high glycemic index.

You also probably have to learn to brush your teeth better. When I was a kid I had lots of cavities, then I learned that I was doing it badly(I had plaque and tartar in my teeth and I got used to it). No one really told me, dentist don't feel the teeth the way your tongue does, they use a piece of metal.

So I brushed better so the surfaces of the teeth became smooth(it took some time but then maintaining that is really easy).

Since then, decades had passed and no new cavities.

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by spikels »

aestra wrote: post #21
spikels wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! More bad journalism about medical research. Why is this so hard? Is it that the reporter simply cannot understand it? Or it is purposely distorted to make it more appealing to readers? I think it is usually a combination of both of these reasons.

"..misunderstandings and neglect create more confusion in this world than trickery and malice. At any rate, the last two are certainly much less frequent." — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

I completely agree that ignorance and laziness are much more representative of humane behavior than deceit and evil. And I believe it is just good practice to always assume the best intentions in others for your own peace and happiness.

However in this case the 'painless' claim which is the most appealing element of the story appears to have been made up - it appears nowhere in the longer article, abstract or patent.

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by adventured »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #19
Genmutant wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Xylitol[1]? I use it to sweet my tea instead of regular sugar. And it should return your mouth ph fast, instead of rinsing with baking soda with doesn't sound nice. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol#Dental_care

I haven't, but I'll buy a bag from Amazon today. Thank you.

Also consider checking out products with Erythritol (eg Sobe Zero):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythritol

"Erythritol has been certified as tooth-friendly. The sugar alcohol cannot be metabolized by oral bacteria, so does not contribute to tooth decay. Erythritol exhibits some, but not all, of xylitol's tendency to "starve" harmful bacteria. Unlike xylitol, erythritol is actually absorbed into the bloodstream after consumption but before excretion. However, it is not clear at present if the effect of starving harmful bacteria occurs systemically."

"Erythritol More Potent Than Xylitol Against Dental Caries"

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/766577

Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by [deleted] »

voidlogic wrote: post #23
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That research is progressing rapidly: https://singularityhub.com/2013/08/26/scientists-grow-teeth-... I have a high risk of cavities due to my genetics, am 31, and my teeth are falling apart even with a high level of care (brushing 2-3 times/day, flossing, baking soda rinse after meals to return mouth ph to baseline quickly). I'll be happy to pay for replacement teeth grown from my own cells when available.

Have you looked into having your teeth sealed (like they often do for children teeth)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_sealant

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Re: New 'painless' treatment to repair teeth

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Post by amalag »

Udo wrote: post #14
dpatrick86 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a description of what stem cells generally do. Which part makes you skeptical?

It's supposed to sound good, but in practice making stem cells work, for example implanting them and stimulating them to become anything but unspecific fatty connective tissue is really hard. I could be totally wrong of course, and the article doesn't go into any detail, but the way it's presented triggers several snake oil alarms.

The idea in this case is that they documented stem cells in the gums or tooth root. The only stimulate to let the blood enter the tooth area and let it do the rest. So they don't have active involvement in implanting and stimulating.
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