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Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by nknighthb »

stephenr wrote: post #26
nknighthb wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, at the moment, it's about the freedom of the developer of software to choose the license their code is offered under. GPL advocates make arguments for use of GPL. BSD advocates, as you've just demonstrated, prefer ad hominem attacks on RMS when they don't get what they selfishly feel entitled to.

> it's about the freedom of the developer of software to choose the license their code is offered under except, according to RMS and his fans, any choice but GPL is "wrong".

So what? Lots of people think lots of things are wrong that lots of other people disagree with. That has nothing to do with anything I've said.

You may want to make this thread about opinion and morality, since you can't "win" any other way, but that's not at all what it's about. The subjective merits of licenses are not at issue in any way, shape, or form.

Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by crystalmace »

I would open source it, if only because it is something that I personally would use and want to improve on. As it sits right now abandoned, it isn't doing any good for anyone, and in my opinion constitues wasted time if not used. My personal philosophy is to open source a project if I abandon it so that the effort that went into it is usefule to someone, if not me. Just my two cents on the issue.

Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by rbanffy »

stephenr wrote: post #27
rbanffy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPL-like licenses are designed to protect the freedoms of users at the expense of the freedoms downstream developers (or repackagers) would prefer to have. A Red Hat customer always gets full source code for all the GPL'ed software Red Hat sells them. BSD-like licenses emphasize the rights of downstream developers (and repackagers) at the expense of the freedoms of their users. A Cisco user has no access to all the o…

Yes, I understand the difference. My point is that RMS and his fans are near-religious in their belief that any choice but theirs is morally wrong.

For some, the rights of the user are non-negotiable. Considering how much our freedoms depend on being able to trust our computers and networks, I am very much inclined to think that way too.

Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by geetarista »

Open sourcing it is a great idea. I'm sure many people would be interested and it would be a way to keep the project alive in some way, seeing as you've put so much time and effort into it.

Also, open sourcing it doesn't preclude the opportunity of releasing it for sale in the Mac App Store if time permits down the road. Textual is a great example of this:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textual-irc-client/id4030126... https://github.com/Codeux/Textual

Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by belorn »

stephenr wrote: post #27
rbanffy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPL-like licenses are designed to protect the freedoms of users at the expense of the freedoms downstream developers (or repackagers) would prefer to have. A Red Hat customer always gets full source code for all the GPL'ed software Red Hat sells them. BSD-like licenses emphasize the rights of downstream developers (and repackagers) at the expense of the freedoms of their users. A Cisco user has no access to all the o…

Yes, I understand the difference. My point is that RMS and his fans are near-religious in their belief that any choice but theirs is morally wrong.

In total contrast to all BSD fans and their near-religious belief that any choice but theirs is morally wrong.

Is it now that I should do some ad hominem attacks on openbsd project leader, just so the message really sinks in?

Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by belorn »

stephenr wrote: post #26
nknighthb wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, at the moment, it's about the freedom of the developer of software to choose the license their code is offered under. GPL advocates make arguments for use of GPL. BSD advocates, as you've just demonstrated, prefer ad hominem attacks on RMS when they don't get what they selfishly feel entitled to.

> it's about the freedom of the developer of software to choose the license their code is offered under except, according to RMS and his fans, any choice but GPL is "wrong".

That is false, and now you are representing someone else opinion incorrecly. Would you like having other saying "according to stephenr and people like him, he thinks ..."

  "Releasing your code under one of the BSD licenses,
  or some other permissive non-copyleft license,
  is not doing wrong*"
- last sentence at https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-copyleft.html

"Is not doing wrong", the Exact word for word opposite to your claim.

Now please tell that you are sorry for misrepresenting someone else opinion and promise never to do it again. It is a shameful act.

Re: Ask HN: Open source an abandoned Mac app for mockups?

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Post by chrismcb »

rbanffy wrote: post #21
fotcorn wrote: post #10

Upload the code to github.com. Use a permissive license like 2-clause BSD or MIT, or even better make it public domain. You can add compiled binaries using releases: https://github.com/blog/1547-release-your-software

OTOH, if you would resent someone repackaging your work and selling it for a profit, use a GPL variant.

How does using a GPL variant prevent someone from repackaging your work and selling it for a profit?
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