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Don't pay taxes in places the cops are mostly criminals. Ever.
You can find shitty police behavior everywhere, including the EU, Germany and Canada. The probability is just different.
"Mostly" speaks to probability.
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course there are others. There are also many people having pleasant experiences with cops every day - they don't make it to the top of Hacker News.
Really? Who has pleasant experiences with cops besides other cops? Honest question.
I can think of four experiences I've personally had with cops and all four range between pleasant and even better than pleasant.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you call 911, don't you get the option for Police, Fire or Ambulance? That is the way it works in Australia.
In my location in the US, all three come when you call.
That is so weird. Where I live, Israel, they actually have different phone numbers (police - 100, medics - 101, fire dept. - 102), and they come only if you call them specifically (if at all). Of course if something really bad happens you call the police first and they call everyone else, but police arriving for someone who fell of their bike? Really? What a weird place.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
No one is denying that good cops do exist. The problem is that (especially for minorities in large cities) calling for the police is a gamble. That many white, suburban kids are taught from a young age that "all police are your friends, you can always go to them if you need help" and that many minorities in cities are taught from a young age "cops are people near complete immunity, great authority and guns; they are…
>No one is denying that good cops do exist. If you'll look closely through this comment section, several people have suggested that good cops don't exist. I'm speaking to them. I do not deny that calling police can be a big gamble.
My apologies, I think we're on the same page then.
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#295I posted this in another thread today but it's even more relevant here. We need a way to track when police officers have violent interactions with the public. We should be able to look up any officer and find their history of abuse of authority if it exists to make it easier to identify patterns. We can't trust these people with power if we can't hold them responsible. I would love to help work on this with someone.
TheFunded for Peace Officers.
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#296Why did she selectively describe the race and skin color of only some of the police-people? I'd like to know the race and skin color of all of them.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have guns. They have the power to end your existence. So yes, they CAN treat people like this. We gave them that power when they were hired and our tax dollars started paying their salary.
Its almost as though the citizens can remove that power if its abused... Is your point that because citizens gave police power at some point that they can't possibly object to them abusing it...?
Well, it's not very rational to tell your objections to the same people that you want to take power away.
Yes, the police must treat every innocent person with respect and even reserve some dose of respect to criminals. Yes, it's our duty to try to fix the situation when that do not help. But no, it's not advisable to try to fix that in the exact instant the problem is happening.
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#299When a cop gives you instructions to leave, you leave. Not because the cop is right, but because this shit happens. And if you're naive enough to think that this shit won't happen to you, try not complying with a cop's instructions. Doesn't matter where in the US you happen to be. It's that simple. Look, here's a simple rule. In every interaction with the police, ask if you can leave. If you can, count your lucky sta…
"In every interaction with the police, ask if you can leave. If you can, count your lucky stars and leave. " "count your lucky stars" is not what I'm paying my taxes for.
I don't think he's saying 'be happy with the outcome', he's saying 'save your own skin and scramble, given the chance'. While us taxpayers have plenty of rights to be angry at being poorly treated by civil servants, getting into a fight with someone at the bottom will do us no good. Stories like this are the evidence.
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While I was a student living in a "gentrifying" part of the city, I once went outside to discover my car was full of bullets. Several in the hood, several through the windows, one in the rear tire and most disconcertingly one in the driver side headrest. When I called the police and the investigator came, I could tell I was instantly suspect #1. He began grilling me lengthily about my whereabouts the night before and…
He assumed you were a gang member and the shooting was gang related. Which probably isn't a bad heuristic. Most of the time when gangs shoot up a rival gang members car, they don't accidentally get the wrong one.
Most of the time...
Citation needed.