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Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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“I mean, there are a lot of young cops on the street, trying to make a name for themselves.” - oh, so it's OK then. Absolutely disgusted by this story, particularly after reading another story about a different fucked up justice system in America (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7229930).

I did and somewhat still want to live in America for a year+, but seeing this shit daily puts me right off. So glad to be European right now.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #50

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When you call 911, don't you get the option for Police, Fire or Ambulance? That is the way it works in Australia.

Depends on the situation. I've had operators ask if anyone was injured so they wouldn't have to send out an ambulance. Usually, the police are there anyway.

Of the three groups (fire paramedics police) which is most likely to be bored with nothing to do? Of course the cops are going to light the lamps.

This nation would have much better policing if we had half as many cops. I had a single day of jury duty two weeks ago and was dumbfounded by how many sheriff's deputies there were wandering around the courthouse in a daze, loitering around the metal detector, setting off the metal detector, speaking at inappropriate volume, eating in unsettling fashion, etc.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #15

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> OP definitely needs to sue the city, as well as the aggressors personally. I upvoted this comment for that; it seems like a prudent step to take. > the only good cop is a dead cop And then I got here and wish I could undo. I don't understand why you would say such a thing. That's just not right.

It's also not right that the police abuse their power to such degrees. They really should up the qualifications on becoming a cop. Right now it's "Eh I can't any other job, guess I'll just be a cop" and you're left with these incoherent slimeballs thinking they run things without any regard for actual law. I've been thrown in a cell for one week. I was drunk the night before, woke up in a cell. No window, no view, lo…

They really should up the qualifications on becoming a cop.

Cops will take the best candidates they can get. They don't get a lot of people wanting to be a cop. It's a shitty job that most people would not do by choice.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #70

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Where are the good cops when things like this happen? Why don't they speak out? Why don't they throw their bad-cop colleagues under the bus? Nope. The supposed good cops are bad too.

I'll respond to this in the same way that I responded to another user posing the same questions. Who says that they don't speak out about this sort of stuff? How many good cops do condemn this behavior? How many of them do you not hear about? What happens to cops who condemn other cops?

What happens to cops who condemn other cops?

They get their concerns treated seriously by responsible professionals who's work tirelessly to keep everything at the department above board. [1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #26

Necessary link to Pr. Duane's lecture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc Don't talk to the police. Ever.

But how can she call the paramedics without the police?

Don't call the paramedics either. Desperately try to find your own way (or help the injured person find a way) to the hospital if something is wrong. There is no shortage of stories where people call the police, even for relatively serious issues, only to have the police show up and promptly murder the injured person or another nearby innocent.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #26

Necessary link to Pr. Duane's lecture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc Don't talk to the police. Ever.

Video all interactions with police more serious than a traffic stop and video those if you can get away with it legally. Cameras are cheap and Internet streaming is easy.

It seems like the less serious offenses should be video tapped as well. Why not? Nothing serious is going to happen, right?

Police themselves should wear cameras at all times, and that footage should be made freely available to the public.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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>Consider wearing a video camera at all times. It has been shown that when police wear cameras and are aware of being filmed, it moderates their behavior. >As self reports of the need to use force decrease, so do complaints.

What is a good wearable camera that wont broadcast all I do to the alphabet soup?

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #46

After reading the first paragraph I already knew where this was headed. White America welcome to black America. You'll be arrested for nothing at all. The first time it happens you'll be really upset and threaten to sue, and file a police report. And when you do there will be some sort of roadblock, they won't have the forms, the officer in question wasn't on shift that night, the detective is quite hostile to you, t…

As a black programmer, I remember the cliche about problems and regular expressions in my head as "regular expressions are like calling the cops."

That's unfair to regular expressions, though, because I actually have seen them solve a problem before. Cops improving a situation? Never seen it.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

#149
Relevant bit from the article:

    Don’t call 911. Obviously, there are exceptions, but the sad lesson is, there are fewer than you’d think.

    Call Lyft to take you to the hospital. (Worked well when I broke my elbow.)

    Take such incidents to trial, where justice isn’t veiled by the POBAR. It’s not a matter of litigious vindictiveness. It’s just the only available way. The SF Office of Citizen Complaints is not a valid alternative.

    Consider wearing a video camera at all times. It has been shown that when police wear cameras and are aware of being filmed, it moderates their behavior. As self reports of the need to use force decrease, so do complaints.
Folks, that right there is a breakdown of the social contract and the fabric of our fucking society. These incidents (finally, one that happens to the wrong people, right?) are a sign that something is seriously fucking broken.

Stop working on ads and organic food sourcing and microfunding and start fixing the fucking system. Vote. Call. Protest. Write articles like this when your friends are abused. Praise politicians that are doing the right thing.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well comments like "the only good cop is a dead cop" come across as blisteringly stupid. I'm primarily responding to those sorts of comments because it seems as though some people really do think that no good cops exist. I'm not speaking to the rational here.

No one said the thing you're claiming people say... When the entire basis of your point is a clear strawman, and your argument is literally "cops aren't bad, because there are a non-zero number of good cops, is, as the above poster said, vapid and lacking in rational thought. The idea that you need to make up an opponent to make up an argument and call it "blisteringly stupid" to make your point, seems pretty silly.

Well, who has constructed the straw man now?

My argument is "good cops exist". This is in response to somebody in this comment section who quite literally (yes, the real literally) said "the only good cop is a dead cop".

What exactly am I making up here?

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