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Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by joeblau »

zedshaw wrote: post #133

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write: "I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dis…

What would be really ironic is if it was a Government agency which pulled off the heist.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by xenophanes »

zedshaw wrote: post #133

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write: "I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dis…

> objectivist libertarians

There is no such thing as an objectivist libertarian. Maybe you should learn what you're talking about before hating. Objectivism and libertarianism are separate opposing things. The Objectivist position on libertarians is very negative.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by zedshaw »

apalmer wrote: post #143
zedshaw wrote: post #133

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write: "I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dis…

I get your point, but I think you are missing the glaring nuance here... He is basically saying if you are reading this and you were affected its in your best interest to participate in catching this guy and 'persuading' him to give us the bitcoins... he isnt appealing to government or some over arching entity or morality.

Yes he is! In fact he appeals to morality just about every other sentence. It's rather hilarious.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by _Adam »

zedshaw wrote: post #133

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write: "I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dis…

What I find actually amazing isn't your ignorance, your misunderstanding of Objectivism, Libertarianism, and Silk Road denizens. Nor do I find amazing your inability to separate the individual from the collective.

No, what I find actually amazing is that despite all that you still believed you could make a meaningful comment.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by zedshaw »

unethical_ban wrote: post #145
zedshaw wrote: post #133

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write: "I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dis…

The number of strawmen in your argument is staggering.

It can't be strawmen if they're direct quotes. I pulled quotes out that were contradictory to their actually stated philosophy. The whole statement is riddled with them.

In fact, your claim of strawmen is actually a straw man argument (and also so funny).

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by jboggan »

rqebmm wrote: post #61
bhouston wrote: post #14

How much was stolen? How many bitcoins are we talking about. It isn't very clear.

at the top of the article: Update: The amount of BTC that was stolen was calculated by Nicholas Weaver @NCWeaver – Computer Security Researcher, to be around: 4474.266369160003BTC that are with the value of about $2.7 Million.

That should be 4474.26636916 . . . who is doing BTC calculations with floats?

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by blhack »

lugg wrote: post #142
blhack wrote: post #115

This is almost certainly hogshit, and anybody who has been paying even a little bit of attention over the last week can probably smell it. The "hole" in MtGox's security was a social one. You could contact customer support and claim that you had not received your coins, and they could re-issue you new ones if they chose to. There is also no evidence that this ever happened. This wasn't, and isn't, a flaw in the under…

Source? I was under the impression MtGox was also processing withdrawals automatically and shut off withdrawals while they implemented a manual step (like all the other wallet sites already have.) I don't mean to be unconstructive, just trying to understand what you're saying here, I don't really see how a customer support issue such as you outlined would require shutting off withdrawals for multiple days.

I might just be wrong. I'm interpreting their statement to mean that, but some people have pointed out that they've said other, possibly conflicting things.

>This means that an individual could request bitcoins from an exchange or wallet service, alter the resulting transaction's hash before inclusion in the blockchain, then contact the issuing service while claiming the transaction did not proceed. If the alteration fails, the user can simply send the bitcoins back and try again until successful.

https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20140210.html

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by zedshaw »

_Adam wrote: post #154
zedshaw wrote: post #133

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write: "I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dis…

What I find actually amazing isn't your ignorance, your misunderstanding of Objectivism, Libertarianism, and Silk Road denizens. Nor do I find amazing your inability to separate the individual from the collective. No, what I find actually amazing is that despite all that you still believed you could make a meaningful comment.

Swoosh! Right over your head. This is just so hilarious I can't stand it. Nothing is better than watching a true believer grasp clumsily at his beliefs as they slip from his grasp like a slimy eel.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by mathattack »

I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dishonest actions and use whatever means you deem necessary to bring this person to justice. More details will emerge as we continue to investigate.

This seems like absolving themselves of responsibility. Was that in the spirit of how this was set up? I understand that this is different than a bank, both in spirit and law. But is there really nobody who would go after Silk Road 2 to get the money back?

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