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How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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OP definitely needs to sue the city, as well as the aggressors personally. Every cop involved in this situation should be spending years in prison for battery, kidnapping, false imprisonment, and torture. Until justice for victims of the police becomes routine, they're nothing but another gang and the only good cop is a dead cop.

they're nothing but another gang and the only good cop is a dead cop.

Hacker News is rapidly becoming Reddit. Reddit has its place, but this is not a good thing.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Of course there are others. There are also many people having pleasant experiences with cops every day - they don't make it to the top of Hacker News.

Really? Who has pleasant experiences with cops besides other cops? Honest question.

Me. Last night, actually, and it wasn't the first time.

Here's another honest question: do you actually believe that nobody has pleasant experiences with police?

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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If this is really how things went down, then suing the city seems reasonable. The rest of your comment is a little over the top though, no? Have the police in question spend years in prison? The only good cop is a dead cop? I'd imagine the OP doesn't think this way given his usual, positive interactions with the SFPD.

I agree, the rest of that comment is silly. I wonder if, somewhere out there, there exists a Bizarro Earth where people go out of their way to tell everybody about their pleasant interactions with police. I just had one last night, actually. Very friendly dude, and it wasn't the first time this had happened.

Agreed, I've had multiple interactions with police in various settings (college, traffic stops, etc.) and none have ever been rude. Just doing their job.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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And this is why I fucking HATE COPS. I don't care if it's the few, this god damn country-wide gang is a piece of shit and I will do everything I can to avoid them and teach my two children about staying away as well. Fuck these pigs.

It's really easy to focus on the bad ones, but good cops exist whether you know it or not.

If good cops don't publicly condemn this type of behavior then they are by definition not a good cop.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

#56

OP definitely needs to sue the city, as well as the aggressors personally. Every cop involved in this situation should be spending years in prison for battery, kidnapping, false imprisonment, and torture. Until justice for victims of the police becomes routine, they're nothing but another gang and the only good cop is a dead cop.

This is a harrowing tale, but remember this is just one side of the story. And you don't know how inebriated this guy really was. But always best to follow instructions from the police, especially when you are not involved in the situation.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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It's really easy to focus on the bad ones, but good cops exist whether you know it or not.

Would you eat apples from a bag if there was a chance that 50% of them were poisonous? 25%? 10%? 1%?

You're reading too much into what I'm saying.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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But how can she call the paramedics without the police?

When you call 911, don't you get the option for Police, Fire or Ambulance? That is the way it works in Australia.

In my location in the US, all three come when you call.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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And this is why I fucking HATE COPS. I don't care if it's the few, this god damn country-wide gang is a piece of shit and I will do everything I can to avoid them and teach my two children about staying away as well. Fuck these pigs.

This kind of crap is why I left law enforcement after 14 years in it. I was a jailer for a while, and ended up hating myself for witnessing but not being able to stop things like the article author went through. I went from jailer to dispatcher, then terminal operator. Even there, detached as I was from the violence and corruption, I still knew I was supporting it as well. I'm finally out of that career, working as the sole IT staff for a private company.

While I know that there are a lot more good cops than bad cops, there are also, among the good cops, way too many bullies who seemingly don't even realize what they are doing. They are generally good, family oriented, helpful people, but they are trained in the POST (Peace Officer Standards and Training) classes to never, ever trust the citizen. That mistrust bleeds over into their personality and they sometimes don't even realize they have become jerks and bullies. I'm not defending them; it's just been my observation that while the job does attract a certain bad element (low to average intelligence combined with laziness and a lust for authority), it also attracts those who want to do good but end up warped into becoming oppressors despite their good intentions.

And there are a few truly good cops who would prevent something like what we read escalating like it did. They do exist, but they generally don't last very long in that line of work, because they can't take the constant pressure to be part of the team and cover up the bullshit.

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