Here's one: Because any language other than English is brainfucked in string support. There, I said it.
No, let's use other languages for naming stuff in programming languages that support Unicode sources!
Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
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Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#122I struggle to imagine a developer who is _talented_ (in actual real sense of this) in programming yet cannot ask/answer a tech question in English (I am not a native speaker). Has anyone met a person like this?
There are many forms and degrees of talented, and many of them are perfectly possible without being able to write in English comfortably.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#123> Without Googling, name any famous developer from Japan. Or China. Or Russia. Many Ruby developers won't have a problem with this.
Itojun, to which we owe a lot of IPv6 work.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#124This is AWESOME! I even get emotional about this and here is why.
TL;DR: I am a Brazilian and it would have been much easier for me if I had the resources I needed available in my mother language.
Long story:
I am a Brazilian. I was born in a small town in Brazil (population: 13k) and I only had access to public schools. Public schools in Brazil do have English classes, however all I remember was them teaching the verb "to be" in every single grade. When I was 15, in 1998, my mom found a way to finance a cheap computer for me. My first access to a computer. Everything was in English. I did not have access to internet initially, but the computer came with a few softwares installed. At the time I also asked my mom to buy me a translation dictionary, so I could learn English. Translating most of the things I was seeing on the screen did not make sense at all, so I just assumed them as part of my vocabulary giving them meanings, but not translations, like "software", or software names... Later, with access to internet (long distance dial up after midnight), it was really, REALLY, hard to search for stuff related to programming because there was almost nothing available in portuguese. I had to learn how to translate properly what I was looking for before I could even do the search. Not sure native English speakers understand this part. So what I tried to do instead was to learn English. I did that by finding lyrics of the songs I liked online (they were easy to find since no translation was needed) and translating them with the help from my dictionary. And this is basically how I learned most of the English that I know. (In fact, I never went to a real English school/class, as you can probably tell at this point by reading this). But dude, I was able to do this because I put A LOT of effort and hours, and nights, doing this, day after day, because I really wanted to learn. (It paid off... I am a H1B living in Miami today)
Learning English is not for everyone. Learning another language is not for everyone. Learning how to code IS WAY MUCH FUN than learning how to speak another language.
While I always tell people to try to learn English, because they're going to have better chances, I believe this should not be a barrier for the average people to learn programming. Or anything, really. You have no idea of how many great developers in Brazil do not speak proficient English.
So, thanks to the guys at Stack Overflow for doing this. I'll make sure I share this with everyone I know that always wanted to learn programming but had English as a barrier.
I am confident that the IT industry in Brazil will be thankful for this in the long term.
Thank you guys.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#125I have been in Portugal two years ago and everybody, I mean EVERYBODY told me that all Portuguese people speak English, because every movie comes with subtitles only (no sound translation), and most of the films are English. They only translates cartoons for small kids.
I mean, is Portuguese the best language to start with?
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Lua developers are Brazilians, hence also not from Japan, China, or Russia (as the original article asks for).
I don't believe the OP actually meant, strictly speaking, Japan, China and Russia full stop. It was more like: name any famous developer from the non-English speaking world... And yes, the three names I listed are all Brazilians.
If you want only one programmer from the non-English speaking world, the canonical answer is: “Linus Torvalds”.
My interpretation is that they wanted a programmer from a non-latin script language.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#127Programming specific I think is easier in English. I speak 3 languages and understand 4. Talking about programming, computer science and technology in non-Engish is awkward. It either is necessary to just use English terms anyway for every other noun or struggle with awkward translation of them. Things like kernel, doubly linked list, hash table, binary tree, greedy algorithm, they are all invented in English and whe…
I wonder how corporate programmers in non-english speaking countries communicate about programming. I would imagine that they use their local language for docs, commit descriptions, email lists, etc. I think most of the source code people can look at is for open source projects and they always go with english as the default even when there are mostly non-english speaking programmers. But what does it look inside priv…
Yeah in Indonesia at least we just use them straight away. It's because not only it sometime hard to find synonymous meaning in our native vocabularies it also not sound as natural when you translate them. Everybody understand them anyway if you said them in English.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#128This is AWESOME! I even get emotional about this and here is why. TL;DR: I am a Brazilian and it would have been much easier for me if I had the resources I needed available in my mother language. Long story: I am a Brazilian. I was born in a small town in Brazil (population: 13k) and I only had access to public schools. Public schools in Brazil do have English classes, however all I remember was them teaching the ve…
Would you have learned English if it hadn't been a by-product of learning about computers and programming? I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't really even try to learn a little Portugese while I was in Brazil.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#129This is AWESOME! I even get emotional about this and here is why. TL;DR: I am a Brazilian and it would have been much easier for me if I had the resources I needed available in my mother language. Long story: I am a Brazilian. I was born in a small town in Brazil (population: 13k) and I only had access to public schools. Public schools in Brazil do have English classes, however all I remember was them teaching the ve…
Would you have learned English if it hadn't been a by-product of learning about computers and programming? I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't really even try to learn a little Portugese while I was in Brazil.
I really wanted to learn the meaning of the lyrics I was listening too as well, but you are right... the big motivation came from the need to learn English in order to find what I was looking for from the computer/programming world.
Re: Why Stack Overflow in Portuguese?
#130> Without Googling, name any famous developer from Japan. Or China. Or Russia. Yukihiro Matsumoto. Rasmus Lerdorf. Guido van Rossum.
Eugene Roshal, the inventor of RAR.