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We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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And going "nuclear" on Android because they felt that their iOS was soooo original it should be protected by all patents, trademarks and laws in place. Apple is the Disney of IT, seriously.

Presumably they went nuclear on Android because they felt betrayed when a close partner of their came out with a clone of their product, something Apple had a history with that nearly killed it.

I presume you mean Google - were they close partners? I admit I wasn't following Apple (at all) before iPhone.

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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Popularizing walled gardens? Yah I'm never going to forget that. ever.

What about LLVM and Webkit?

Neither was started by Apple and arguably in the case of WebKit they only contributed because it was hard not to.

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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With all their patent trolling and absurd tyrannical control over the app store, I have no idea why so many tech-saavy people still love Apple.

> I have no idea why so many tech-saavy people still love Apple. Good hardware offerings (beyond the "my custom built hot-rod has a faster CPU"), and a full blown UNIX desktop OS with a nice interface and access to all kinds of proprietary software and consumer/professional peripherals. Plus "absurd tyrannical control over the app store"? Apple made the whole platform, API and market out of thin air, it's not like pe…

As long as users are not allowed to install their own apps, Apple have "absurd tyrannical control" over iOS apps.

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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That's a shame. Mood trackers are a useful tool to help tackle some mental health problems. Tacking on a bunch of stuff to get it into the app store feels sub-optimal. My current mood tracker has some features that I really don't like. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/moodometer/id404137652?mt=8

When did "do one thing and do it well" become something to avoid?

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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You can pick one part of my answer and isolate it from the rest if you like, but I made it clear: we have varying problems with what they do as a company, but many of us admire their larger impact. If you think controlling slide to unlock compares to popularizing the personal computer and the touch-screen smartphone, I guess we're just not going to agree. But I'm 99% sure we both agree that their patent litigation is…

I used to admire Apple back in the day, not any more. For example, 2011 MBP laptops are having huge problems with the GPU and Apple is saying nothing. The user forums at Apple are overloaded with complaints, but no employee dignifies that with an answer. To me that seems like very bad customer service.

Hep I have one of them. 2.7GHz i7 with 16Gb of RAM just sitting here rotting because it's unreliable and unsaleable.

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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Presumably they went nuclear on Android because they felt betrayed when a close partner of their came out with a clone of their product, something Apple had a history with that nearly killed it.

iOS 1 was an inevitable jump from Palm OS and the early days of touch screen. The tech had been in demos before, but there was such a lack of UX work beforehand that it never took off. That, and capacitive screens/advancing tech.

The thing is, Android copied most of the UX (and I say that as someone that likes Android a lot more than iOS, and I had a Palm before).

I agree that Apple's UX was a significant advance. (See this 2007 review talking about "paradigm-shifting interface"

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/03/iphone-review-part-1-hard... )

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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With all their patent trolling and absurd tyrannical control over the app store, I have no idea why so many tech-saavy people still love Apple.

The reason is known as "taste". Other day I was in AT&T store to try out new Android phones thinking it must have gotten better now that its 2014. Store didn't had Nexus so I didn't got chance to see it but, boy, latest LG and Samsung models totally sucked. The UX, the experience was outrageously horrible. The icon colors were repulsive. Animations so overdone that it hurt my eyes. If pricing of this crap wasn't so low and saving grace like Google Now and Maps didn't exist, I can't imagine anyone would really want to buy this horrible piece of shit compared to iPhones. The iOS7 has degraded significantly but it's still miles ahead of crap that is known as Android. Overall, it is this taste that outweights Apple's idiosyncrasies around walled garden for some people - your weights may vary.

Re: We made something. We use it. We love it. Apple rejected it

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It's really your typical regulatory committee keeping up appearance and hitting their quota:

Regardless of quality or compliance with the rules, Apple's App Store review staff needs to reject a given number of admission a week. Otherwise, they're out of a job.

Think about end-of-the-day traffic tickets or city's planning and zoning... Here's a classic explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apdi885ZdBA Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Food_and_Drug...

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