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Comcast Acquiring Time Warner Cable In All Stock Deal Worth $45.2 Billion

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Re: Comcast Acquiring Time Warner Cable In All Stock Deal Worth $45.2 Billion

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> 2) NetFlix, Amazon Prime et al will become really popular as a result of all the customers saying "FU ComcastWarner" I agree with your first point, but your second point doesn't follow. If anything, Comcast will price gouge Netflix out of business, and we'll be back to being stuck watching their awful "On Demand" instead. They can do this, because Comcast owns the content (NBC), the delivery mechanism for said cont…

To play devil's advocate, what it means is that Comcast has the better business model. After all, that's why Apple and Samsung dominate the cellular industry. iApps running on iOS running on an iPhone using an Apple A7 offers the ability to optimize the user experience and integrate the layers that vendors doing things piecemeal can't match. If Netflix et al want to survive, they have to evolve from being mere middle…

Apple is an integration house. The screen and the A7 are actually fabricated by Samsung. They would have a tough time going it alone.

Re: Comcast Acquiring Time Warner Cable In All Stock Deal Worth $45.2 Billion

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post #69

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> 2) NetFlix, Amazon Prime et al will become really popular as a result of all the customers saying "FU ComcastWarner" I agree with your first point, but your second point doesn't follow. If anything, Comcast will price gouge Netflix out of business, and we'll be back to being stuck watching their awful "On Demand" instead. They can do this, because Comcast owns the content (NBC), the delivery mechanism for said cont…

To play devil's advocate, what it means is that Comcast has the better business model. After all, that's why Apple and Samsung dominate the cellular industry. iApps running on iOS running on an iPhone using an Apple A7 offers the ability to optimize the user experience and integrate the layers that vendors doing things piecemeal can't match. If Netflix et al want to survive, they have to evolve from being mere middle…

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Re: Comcast Acquiring Time Warner Cable In All Stock Deal Worth $45.2 Billion

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No. I believe in the concept of a natural monopoly for most utilities though - Building outside plant is horrendously expensive - it to me makes as much sense to have multiple cable providers as it does multiple sets of power/telephone/water/sewer infrastructure. I'd even like to see a fewer wireless carriers (consider that each for carrier are spending billions of dollars to roll out what amount to essentially ident…

I used to install internet for Comcast. I appreciate the natural monopoly line of thought, but I would love to see solutions that worked around it. I'm not an expert municipal telecom policy, so I'm interested in your perspective, but I would propose a finite number of lines that companies bid for. There's definitely benefit from a natural monopoly in cable, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the costs of alternativ…

It would be to take something like what the UK did - have an entity that doesnt own the network itself do the retail sales, and lease a portion of the network, or simply build multiple networks, its a much harder thing to do with cable than phones.

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post #164

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> 2) NetFlix, Amazon Prime et al will become really popular as a result of all the customers saying "FU ComcastWarner" I agree with your first point, but your second point doesn't follow. If anything, Comcast will price gouge Netflix out of business, and we'll be back to being stuck watching their awful "On Demand" instead. They can do this, because Comcast owns the content (NBC), the delivery mechanism for said cont…

They might want Netflix to survive in some form so as to avoid awaking the sleeping antitrust dogs. Same way as Microsoft found the Mac a useful argument against the "desktop monopoly" argument in the 90s.

If they cared about that, I don't think they would be throttling Netflix.

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post #86

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Cheaper and faster urban mobile networks will take over before that reality is allowed for an extended period of time in some protracted way.

I think people are overly optimistic about the ability to endlessly increase the performance of wireless networks. The existing networks make fairly efficient use of the spectrum they're allocated. That means you really only have two options to make it go faster. 1) More spectrum. But it's massively in demand (read: expensive), nobody wants to give any up, and even if you had "all" the spectrum there are still practi…

3) Municipal fiber-optic lines that ISPs can lease access to in order to provide service to customers. Boom, no more monopolies.

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With this announcement we as a community REALLY need to get behind Net Neutrality as much as we did w/ SOPA -- Companies like Google, Netflix, et al - should block all access to their sites from D.C. IP addresses as a protest to show them what 'Throttling' feels like.

Netflix and other services can throttle their subscribers, too. :D

Re: Comcast Acquiring Time Warner Cable In All Stock Deal Worth $45.2 Billion

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> 2) NetFlix, Amazon Prime et al will become really popular as a result of all the customers saying "FU ComcastWarner" I agree with your first point, but your second point doesn't follow. If anything, Comcast will price gouge Netflix out of business, and we'll be back to being stuck watching their awful "On Demand" instead. They can do this, because Comcast owns the content (NBC), the delivery mechanism for said cont…

Netflix partnering with, or potentially acquired by, Amazon to take on other platforms makes sense. There needs to be consolidation and I think Bezos could do a better job bringing in bigger licensing deals.

So your solution to defeating a monopoly is to form a monopoly?

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#179
We should be taking these guy's monopolies away. Competition is the key to not only good value (i.e. low price/value) but also economic fairness.

Ever notice how many of the biggest fortunes were built on top of government granted monopolies of some form, such as exclusive licenses, highly regulated industries, copyrights, trademarks and/or patents? Just look at the list of the world richest people:

1. Carlos Slim - telecom monopolies

2. Bill Gates - software copyrights

3. Amancio Ortega - clothing trademarks (brands)

4. Warren Buffet - highly regulated businesses

5. Larry Ellison - software copyrights

6 and 7 - Kock Brothers - highly regulated businesses

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Re: Comcast Acquiring Time Warner Cable In All Stock Deal Worth $45.2 Billion

#180
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Does it strike anyone else as curious that the two largest cable/internet providers merge, and it doesn't matter because they already don't compete? It might be a sign that something's odd if the premise is that there's no competition between identical products to harm in the first place.

No. I believe in the concept of a natural monopoly for most utilities though - Building outside plant is horrendously expensive - it to me makes as much sense to have multiple cable providers as it does multiple sets of power/telephone/water/sewer infrastructure. I'd even like to see a fewer wireless carriers (consider that each for carrier are spending billions of dollars to roll out what amount to essentially ident…

Conventional economics states that in a natural monopoly the state should be the sole provider.
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