Today is The Day We Fight Back

Post by chaostheory » Wed, Feb 12, 2014, 11:53 AM UTC

ItendToDisagree wrote: post #194

josefresco wrote: post #193

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politicians ignore campaign promises You should back or elect different candidates. Don't simply choose the candidate others have chosen for you, get involved earlier in the process to make sure the person you're voting for has a greater chance of voting for the issues you care deeply for.

That worked really poorly with the last "Hope & Change" candidate. If you suggest voting for an independent... That is sort of a pipedream in the current US election climate. Noble thought and effort to push for such a candidate, but they have little to no chance of actually being electable. And even if they do get elected... Whats to stop them from being totally corrupted, or just overtly ignored by the rest of the…

Post by whatevsbro » Wed, Feb 12, 2014, 7:20 PM UTC

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #222

whatevsbro wrote: post #162

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You're not following, but that's expected. It's not exactly difficult to see reasons for why governments should not exist. They're all around you, and there are countless of them. As a very simple example, why are laws like SOPA and CISPA passed in secret, unless there's a massive uprising against them? Obviously, they're passed in secret, or stealthily, or all of a sudden - they're just rammed through exactly becaus…

It's not difficult to see that government should not exist ... Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? No one should take you seriously; I don't see what espousing that ideology is going to get you.

Post by hubtree » Wed, Feb 12, 2014, 7:52 PM UTC

hamburglar wrote: post #227

hubtree wrote: post #197

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Great site and resource, thanks! When I shared the link with a friend he mentioned he was uncomfortable giving his number and email address. Maybe consider having a link close to those fields to help the visitor find the number or email address of their Representative. That way if someone doesn't want to give out that information there is a quick alternative available.

Yes, this is always what I look for when I see one of these sites. As well-intentioned as you may be, I have no way of verifying that you're not putting me on a bother/solicit list, so the thing that is most likely to get me to participate is if you take all the "we do it for you" machinery and have an option where I can walk through the flowchart myself. Provide me a way of doing the mapping from my home address to…

Post by atomicfiredoll » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 12:55 AM UTC

mjolk wrote: post #185

ef4 wrote: post #143

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> When the NSA demands your data, you're not really entering a business partnership. True, but I saw the original comment as relating more to recruiting. The NSA works just as hard as any tech company to compete for skilled employees. If you're the kind of person they want to hire, you have lots of fantastic other choices. So choose something else. Unless you're planning to pull a Snowden (and have gonads of steel).…

>If you're the kind of person they want to hire, you have lots of fantastic other choices. So choose something else. I am the kind of person they'd want to hire and what has kept me from applying is the relative low pay and not being in my area. As an engineer, you'd get access to cool tech in an interesting domain. >And if you do decide to help code the surveillance state, the rest of us may take that into considera…

Post by tripzilch » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 8:12 AM UTC

dutchbrit wrote: post #67

I really like the banner, although, in all honesty, I don't think this will have any effect on spying. I truly believe that the NSA cannot be stopped by words alone. People lie all the time. The only thing I think words can do in situations like this is drive it more underground, and make the NSA lie that everything is back to normal... Presidents lie. Politicians lie. Now, if every American refuses to work 1 day, an…