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Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

#21
attention seeking behavior- attempting suicide and then blogging about it and then possibly posting it here and elsewhere.

also not sure how this story relates to hacking, computers, etc

Why didn't the college do more? Because it's a place intended for learning, not mental health rehabilitation.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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I believe suicidal tendencies is simply when the weight of feelings from depression, anxiety, and psychosis outweigh results from coping mechanisms. I don't think it has as much to do with feelings of sadness or lack of happiness.

I too have opinions about what causes suicide, but considering I'm not an expert in the field, I keep them to myself because they don't add to the conversation.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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Penn’s response? – Sending some administrator to see me in the hospital (HUP). The first and only thing that she said was, “Are we going to make this an annual pattern?” because I had been hospitalized the year before. I said “No” and she gave me her business card. My kids are going to college in a couple of years. How do I avoid sending them to places like this? People expect (and should expect) to be treated better…

You have to really be there for yours kids, as a parent, and make efforts to understand them and support them. That's about all you can do. And that's probably enough.

College students everywhere are cruel and callous (which seemed to be one of the big factors in the story). And my school did not have the kind of therapist support described in the article---seems like Penn is probably ahead of 99% of large US schools in that regard.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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post #18
post #6

Penn’s response? – Sending some administrator to see me in the hospital (HUP). The first and only thing that she said was, “Are we going to make this an annual pattern?” because I had been hospitalized the year before. I said “No” and she gave me her business card. My kids are going to college in a couple of years. How do I avoid sending them to places like this? People expect (and should expect) to be treated better…

Send them to a small teaching-focused college. Institutions that are large, focused on graduate students, and/or focused on research have an incentive structure that puts a lower priority on the care of individual students. I went to a tl;dr Go somewhere that you're a person and not a statistic.

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Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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post #6

Penn’s response? – Sending some administrator to see me in the hospital (HUP). The first and only thing that she said was, “Are we going to make this an annual pattern?” because I had been hospitalized the year before. I said “No” and she gave me her business card. My kids are going to college in a couple of years. How do I avoid sending them to places like this? People expect (and should expect) to be treated better…

If you're kids are at risk then perhaps college should be postponed..you're kinda out of luck because at some point they will have to make their own choices.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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post #2

> I tried to kill myself at Penn because I felt so utterly alone. If I was the only person on Earth, I wouldn't kill myself. Life isn't about feeling happy all the time.

Suicidal ideation is, in general, not a choice a person makes. It's the result of a combination of depression and lack of inhibition, due to anything ranging from psychosis to extreme anxiety or stress. If you were sufficiently depressed and stressed from being the last person on Earth, you'd most likely commit suicide.

Is it possible to drive a lab monkey to suicide? I'm assuming suicidal people are usually in a state of learned helplessness from prolonged stress, which I understand is well understood in animal experiments.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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post #19

It's ridiculous that the author doesn't even consider that her taking prescribed Wellbutrin (and possibly other medicines) could have led to this. I'm quite sure such "anti-depressants" (what a misnomer) had a lot more to do with the suicide than anything Penn or any other institution or individual could possibly have. Of course, this is an extremely unpopular opinion, though based on medical cases and evidence, in o…

I took Wellbutrin back when it was popular to prescribe as an aid to get off nicotine. OMG, what horrible stuff (for me, anyway). I wasn't ready to stick a shotgun in my mouth or anything, but it gave me a severe case of what a friend called "the fuckits". Didn't care about anything (including the consumption of nicotine). I would have been content to sit and do nothing. One day when I had some from free time and the house to myself, I decided to go for a motorcycle ride down some twisty road. Got a few miles down the road and decided I didn't care about going for a motorcycle ride. Considering that one of the reasons I moved next to the Appalachian Mountains was for the fantastic motorcycle riding, that was a strong enough signal that I quit taking the stuff.

Now that's anecdotal, and your mileage most certainly may vary, but I now understand how a mis-diagnosis and an inappropriate prescription can cause problems.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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post #5

Sounds like she had a lot of awful friends who outright refused to be there for her.

What if they were also dealing with emotional issues? Unfortunately we only have so much emotional energy and sometimes it is depleted when our friends need us the most.

Re: Why I Tried To Kill Myself at Penn

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post #19

It's ridiculous that the author doesn't even consider that her taking prescribed Wellbutrin (and possibly other medicines) could have led to this. I'm quite sure such "anti-depressants" (what a misnomer) had a lot more to do with the suicide than anything Penn or any other institution or individual could possibly have. Of course, this is an extremely unpopular opinion, though based on medical cases and evidence, in o…

I don't know anything about Wellbutrin in particular, so it's entirely possible that its effects are very different from what I'm aware of and that it won't fit this pattern, but in my experience it is always important that people who are just starting anti-depressants or are switching anti-depressants have extra support and people looking out for them during the transition period; this isn't because anti-depressants don't work, it's because they take time to gain full effectiveness. A typical pattern is that patients will start to feel empowered and motivated to do something about their situation before they start to feel happy- as a result, "doing something about their situation" frequently means "trying to end it through suicide". The medication is working just fine, it's just not up to full effectiveness, and needs to be given time to get the patient through the transition period to where they stop wanting to kill themselves.

(Source: several friends with clinical depression who have gone through this, plus a wife who recently completed a semester working as a psychiatric student nurse.)

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