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Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

#31

I like this app. However, most of my work Latex based. If you had something like this for Sublime Text, I would buy it.

I think I would too. I like the idea. Not sure about calling it Hemingway, because I am a huge fan of the writer, but I would like to have something like this available for Sublime.

It might have to deal with markdown.

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

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post #5

You know what's fun? Pasting in text from Ernest Hemingway and seeing what he did wrong. But seriously, this is a nice, simple way to point out some general rules of thumb for improving writing, although I would love for it to be less proscriptive. Not every long sentence is a bad sentence, not every passive-voice sentence is a bad sentence, and not every adverb is a bad adverb. Oh, and by the way, the copy editor in…

The thing about pedantic snark (less/fewer), is that it loses its teeth when you're wrong.

Even if you go in for prescriptive grammar, less and fewer were never strictly divided. The distinction actually came to us through one Mr. Baker's expressed preference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_vs._less#Historical_usage

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

#34
post #5

You know what's fun? Pasting in text from Ernest Hemingway and seeing what he did wrong. But seriously, this is a nice, simple way to point out some general rules of thumb for improving writing, although I would love for it to be less proscriptive. Not every long sentence is a bad sentence, not every passive-voice sentence is a bad sentence, and not every adverb is a bad adverb. Oh, and by the way, the copy editor in…

The thing about pedantic snark (less/fewer), is that it loses its teeth when you're wrong. Even if you go in for prescriptive grammar, less and fewer were never strictly divided. The distinction actually came to us through one Mr. Baker's expressed preference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_vs._less#Historical_usage

OK, so on the one hand, Alfred the Great used less with counting nouns in 888 AD.

But can we really trust this guy for historical precedent? He burnt the cakes!

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

#35
I believe the logic behind HemingwayApp is misguided:

Hemingway the writer actually wrote long sentences and they were actually important in his writing.

Passive is also important in good writing.

You can't use machine metrics to force "good writing" you can only enforce mediocrity and the following some random rules "because the rules have to be followed."

Likewise, I as a writer of the software would absolutely hate to run some program to tell me "this function has more than 10 lines" or whatever. If I wrote 500 lines function it doesn't mean it shouldn't be that long: there are examples where exactly such functions are still necessary and good. Such automatic evaluations are for managers who probably don't understand what they enforce. Pointy-haired bosses, if you will.

So I see HemingwayApp as the pointy-haired-editor app.

(Edit: Improving the text based on the human input, thanks Agathos!)

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

#36
I like products like this, though English is a notorious pain in the ass to try and write, so I thought I'd try it out.

In good news, this app does a good job of handling complex sequences. Consider the sentence:

The quick, brown fox ran out of the clump of trees, saw us, got scared, and promptly ran back into hiding.

When I typed that, I expected it to turn red, but it didn't. Great job!

However, there is a problem with identifying adverbs. Consider the sentence, "He is a burly man." In this case, though burly ends with -ly (like adverbs), it is an adjective.

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

#37
I like this. I pasted in some text from a blog post I'm working on. All the edits it suggested made the post much better. I was worried that through the suggestions it might take the personality out of a persons writing, but because not all the suggestions are explicit (e..g change this word to this word) that might be avoided.

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

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post #35

I believe the logic behind HemingwayApp is misguided: Hemingway the writer actually wrote long sentences and they were actually important in his writing. Passive is also important in good writing. You can't use machine metrics to force "good writing" you can only enforce mediocrity and the following some random rules "because the rules have to be followed." Likewise, I as a writer of the software would absolutely hat…

But most people are lazy and will slip into writing poorly on a regular basis. Having an automated tool highlight potential problem spots can help you to write more consistently the way YOU want to write. If what is desired is passive voice then ignore the highlighted messaging.

note: most programming syntax style applications have the ability to selectively highlight special cases to flag sections of code to ignore particular errors.

Re: Hemingway makes your writing bold and clear

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post #35

I believe the logic behind HemingwayApp is misguided: Hemingway the writer actually wrote long sentences and they were actually important in his writing. Passive is also important in good writing. You can't use machine metrics to force "good writing" you can only enforce mediocrity and the following some random rules "because the rules have to be followed." Likewise, I as a writer of the software would absolutely hat…

Your comment about machine metrics reminded me of corporate use of process.
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