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Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

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Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

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So... someone enlighten me here; why does a project like npm need funding at all? If projects like GCC, which are far more complex, can subsist via contributions and donations alone, so what makes npm, a package manager, different?

gcc isnt a service?

I suppose... though other package managers exist without funding... but hey, I wouldn't turn down 2.6 mil to make my project better either.

I don't understand how they intend to monetize this, but whatever.

Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

#53
post #14

One thing I'm a tad annoyed by - this deal was being put together simultaneously with the "scalenpm" crowdfunding drive. A shoutout to the supporters of that drive would have been nice...

Yea. This is really odd. What in the world is going on? Since when is a package manager something you can monetize? I knew about the plans to monetize node, but didn't realize it was going to involve mucking around with npm. This is concerning.

Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

#54
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the exit going to be? Who are they going to sell to? What revenues are they going to bring in? We're talking VC money, not a grant. Did they just hand over the keys to the node community to someone else?

It really depends on what rights izs has in the case there are differences of opinion between him and where the VCs want to go. Let's be honest here, 92% of commits were made by izs, npm is izs and izs is npm. The two are inseparable. Without izs, any real development of npm would slow to a crawl, until someone else familiar with the codebase takes ownership. I know izs personally and he is a stand up guy and a lot o…

I think the major problem here is just poor branding.

npm can refer to any number of things. It can refer to the client, the server, the hosting provider, the public package registry, and now npm Inc. They all sound like the same thing but they're all actually different.

Contrast this to Github. Github is a service that provides hosting, a public registry, and tools for git. Nobody complains about Github controlling git, because they're obviously separate things. Most people don't know that npm the registry is different from npm the software and that you can even host your own server.

I think they'll mostly be a consulting company for enterprise solutions to companies with hundreds of node.js projects going on that need a complex package management solution that npm inc. can provide.

Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

#56
post #14

One thing I'm a tad annoyed by - this deal was being put together simultaneously with the "scalenpm" crowdfunding drive. A shoutout to the supporters of that drive would have been nice...

It's also kind of funny that Meteor.JS by contrast got $11.2m in funding. And NPM the underpinning technology which has further reaching economic benefits only receives $2.6m. I know it's a bit apple and oranges, but four times the value? The valuation of software is surrealism.

All that said, I love them both dearly.

Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

#57
post #14

One thing I'm a tad annoyed by - this deal was being put together simultaneously with the "scalenpm" crowdfunding drive. A shoutout to the supporters of that drive would have been nice...

It's also kind of funny that Meteor.JS by contrast got $11.2m in funding. And NPM the underpinning technology which has further reaching economic benefits only receives $2.6m. I know it's a bit apple and oranges, but four times the value? The valuation of software is surrealism. All that said, I love them both dearly.

Four times the raise.

We don't know what they were valued at.

Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

#58
post #14

One thing I'm a tad annoyed by - this deal was being put together simultaneously with the "scalenpm" crowdfunding drive. A shoutout to the supporters of that drive would have been nice...

It's also kind of funny that Meteor.JS by contrast got $11.2m in funding. And NPM the underpinning technology which has further reaching economic benefits only receives $2.6m. I know it's a bit apple and oranges, but four times the value? The valuation of software is surrealism. All that said, I love them both dearly.

That was Meteor.js' Series A round after they finished their time at YC. NPM did 2.6M in Seed.

Re: Npm Raises $2.6M Seed Round

#59
post #41

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thanks for answering the questions. i depend on node at my day job, so i am particularly interested in npm's future. i understand someone has to pay for the servers and development time, but would it be possible to give a hint for the types of things you plan to charge for? Even just a rough sketch of "we will offer private repositories" or "we will offer support." I appreciate the "reassurances" that nothing will ch…

I appreciate your paranoia :-) We are wary of announcing all the stuff we're planning given that we don't know how long it will take to build yet and don't want to be accused of vaporware. However, we are planning to announce at least our initial product plans pretty soon. (Probably not in a comment on a HN thread though ;-))

I just want to say that I would gladly pay for private npm hosting. Something along the lines of github's private vs public repos would be extremely valuable. Yes, we could set up our own private npm server, but this seems like an obvious thing to outsource to a service as long as the pricing is not crazy. Best of luck!
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