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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by whitej125 »

So what I find interesting is that as of 4:38pm EST this page has: * 72,000 tweets * 312,000 FB likes * 21,000 G+ shares

At the same time... there 54,700 calls made and 114,122 emails sent.

The number of social media shares is almost double the number of people that followed through with the "call to action" here. Why?

If you are publicly passionate about the cause, I think you would do both (social media share + contact legislator). If you were privately passionate about the cause, you would just do the later; contact legislator.

But what is your mindset if you share this via social media, yet don't actually follow through with the call-to-action yourself?

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by winslow »

fargolime wrote: post #129

I felt compelled to give a fake address for fear of automated reprisal. If the NSA builds up enough of an anti-surveillance (in their minds anti-American) dossier on me, I could be added to the no-fly list or worse.

If you fear that now just imagine if no changes are made and the NSA & US Gov't are allowed to continue stomping on your rights. At some point you must stand up for yourself and others for you may not have the chance in the future.

If it gets to the point of the NSA adding people to no-fly and/or worse actions being taken, the situation would become hostile and more dangerous than the current peaceful political debate.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by dllthomas »

BrandonMarc wrote: post #209
dllthomas wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Victory in the battle, not the war. But the ability to win a battle is huge.

True ... I just hate when a won battle draws attention away from a hidden, lost battle over the same ground, because in a way you're worse off if you think you won when you really lost.

Agreed. We need strategy as well as tactics, and we need to keep our attention trained.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by j2kun »

whatevsbro wrote: post #162
mildtrepidation wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the actual problem that cancer is a symptom of is that we have bodies. So we should really be working towards the Matrix, not doing dead-end research on curing or treating diseases.

You're not following, but that's expected. It's not exactly difficult to see reasons for why governments should not exist. They're all around you, and there are countless of them. As a very simple example, why are laws like SOPA and CISPA passed in secret, unless there's a massive uprising against them? Obviously, they're passed in secret, or stealthily, or all of a sudden - they're just rammed through exactly becaus…

Yeah, having roads and running water are just awful. Schools, sanitation, energy, parks, rights for minorities and laborers. I just HATE that stuff.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by iandanforth »

beaugunderson wrote: post #168
iandanforth wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First off I love the "we'll call you and do all the work" implementation. Really lowers the barriers to entry. Second there are two tricky bits of the workflow that didn't quite work for me. 1. Feinstein doesn't have a mailbox, and if you wait on hold for more than 2 minutes the line hangs up. There was no mechanism to have tdwfb "try again later." So now the burden is on me again. ( tiny violin ) 2. I was connected…

Re: 1., we've just raised the time limit for calls to 20 minutes. Thanks for using the tool!

I'm sorry 1 was ambiguous. Feinstein's office hangs up and asks you to call back. The higher limit on your side is good though!

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by ne0codex »

dllthomas wrote: post #152
chaostheory wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Push even harder during elections.

What does that buy us, when politicians ignore campaign promises and so much of this is secret enough that it takes more than 4 years to come out?

It's as if real political change requires investment in the process throughout various means for an extended period of time, isn't it?

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by GrahamsNumber »

moultano wrote: post #210
GrahamsNumber wrote: post #208

You want to fight back? Turn off Google services, MSFT services, Facebook, Youtube, Yahoo, DDG, Reddit, Tumblr, etc. for a day, that'll raise awareness like never before. But all these companies don't really care, do they? A day's worth of profit is more important.

Of course they care. http://www.reformgovernmentsurveillance.com/

This does not mean they care more than someone posting angry anti-nsa comments on reddit. It ain't gonna change a thing

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by dllthomas »

ne0codex wrote: post #216
dllthomas wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that buy us, when politicians ignore campaign promises and so much of this is secret enough that it takes more than 4 years to come out?

It's as if real political change requires investment in the process throughout various means for an extended period of time, isn't it?

I know, right?

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by GigabyteCoin »

BobMarin wrote: post #128

Here is great post from reddit by SomeKindOfMutant: "Right idea; wrong methods. Let me explain. An email to your legislators may result in a form letter response and a phone call to the office may amount to a tally mark on an administrative assistant's notepad. But, if you want to get their attention, a letter to the editor published in one of your state's 5-10 biggest newspapers that mentions them specifically BY NA…

I would bet that the sheer fact most every competant reporter has come across a website promoting thedaywefightback.org today that most every newspaper in the nation will be talking about it tomorrow in some regard.
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