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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#91
This is a good initiative, but I still find it depressing that we have to fight entities operating outside the law or in violation of it, using methods strictly within the boundaries of the law. It's not a fair fight and it's not likely to be successful.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#92

I honestly think this is naive at best, and at worst useful idiocy on behalf of the companies dependent on the illusion the aim is even achievable. Mass surveillance, if technically possible, is going to happen. Therefore make services where it isn't possible. If that screws with your business model you're part of the problem.

I do not put much faith in it simply because I bet the majority of people who are behind this voted for the guy in charge and will vote for the next person that same party put up all because they cannot think rationally.

As in, you vote for a candidate who is protected by identity politics you will never have a voice. You vote for a politician who adheres to the D or R and your just doing nothing.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#94
post #60

It is treat as a "Tin Hat" issue, or a Occupy Wall Street movement. The people in my circle (several hundred) see this as a non-issue. We have an issue of education and clear message. Especially how this counters the Constitution. Maybe a push for everyone to read "1984" :)

I think that 1984 references, while apropos, are counterproductive. 1984 isn't documentary, and it's not prophecy; it's fiction used to make some political points. It is entirely reasonable for someone to not weight it very highly, in their assessment of likelihoods in the real world. Those not already sympathetic see comparisons to 1984 as hyperbole, those making them as out of touch with reality, and it doesn't help us seem less "tinfoil hat". Actual and potential abuses, with historical analogue, should be substantially more important - though precise reaction is hard to judge (can we get some polling done?)

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#95

I think some people are missing the point, this is clearly intended to raise awareness, nothing more.

On the US side it's primarily about creating an opportunity for pro-privacy legislators. Specifically, the legislative goal is to push through the passage of the USA Freedom Act with amendments to prevent the NSA from undermining encryption standards and to protect the rights of non-Americans.

Raising awareness is definitely part of it too, but it's not the main objective.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#97
I get the following message when going to the page to email my legislators:

Heroku | No such app

There is no app configured at that hostname. Perhaps the app owner has renamed it, or you mistyped the URL.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#98
I wish the "send email" button is more responsive, or at least shows some kind of progress. Clicked once and nothing happened so I thought I misclicked or missed and clicked a few times more, resulting in 6 emails. womp womp!

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#99
First off, way to go with all of this. While I don't believe in "raising awareness" in general, I think this is the best way to keep this in the spotlight.

There's one thing to keep in mind though. I don't think any of us actually hate the NSA (in particular), or your local version. The piece I hate are the policies and their implementation. I'm sure that like all organizations there is some work being done by the NSA/CIA/FBI/KGB.... well maybe KGB was going too far.

I'd love to see links in this thread to the other ways people are supporting the struggle, whether it's blog postings, tumblrs, or something else. In that vein, here's my blog posting:

https://www.lyricalsoftware.com/blog/day-fight-back-panoptic...

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