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Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by anilgulecha »

suprgeek wrote: post #119
joshmn wrote: post #65

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My family is one of them (stressing about getting ends to meet). My momma, 55, otherwise ridiculously healthy, has terminal brain cancer among other things. She was diagnosed five days before her 55th birthday (10/25) this year -- [seemingly] out of the blue. While her and my father have insurance (through United Health Group), there's no smooth sailing because her treatments are so "specialized". I, at 22, cleaned o…

Very inspiring post. I think it will be hard for me to look at Ramen Noodles and not think about this for a while. Paraphrasing from a a recent movie "Every one should live by a code...glad to know that yours is Family."

May I ask which movie?

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by sp332 »

ElDiablo666 wrote: post #240
overgard wrote: post #117

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I donated $100, and yeah, our healthcare system is a goddamn travesty. I don't get it. If you're fortunate to live long enough, the one thing that's guaranteed to eventually happen is you're going to get sick in a very expensive manner. It's not an "if" question, it's a "when" question. I don't think that should mean financial ruin. People against universal healthcare must think they're just immune to ever getting si…

People against universal healthcare are just good people who are confused and/or deluded. Their arguments will never really add up because it's only about corporations making profits and to that end people will need to be deluded and manipulated into believing that we shouldn't implement a proper system. Just remember this when you say you don't get it: it's just the political power of traitors speaking through human…

I'm against public healthcare in the USA because there's no way (in the current political climate) it won't be massively corrupt. Did you know the insurance companies were lobbying in favor of our new system? It's still about corporations making profits.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by sp332 »

cowls wrote: post #226
jwdunne wrote: post #217

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I'm from the UK. The NHS is shambles and is spread very, very thin. Doctors are pissed off. Patients are pissed off. The government seems to be too. However I would prefer the 3 hour A&E (ER) waiting times, being spoken to like shit if it isn't as serious as originally thought and epic waiting lists for outpatient services than having companies profit from my health and the massive vulnerability that puts me in (on t…

The NHS is not a shambles. Its puts a lot of other countries health care system to shame. Your moaning about having a 3 hour wait for non urgent cases, when in other countries you'd have to pay a fortune for such treatment. And who cares how they talk to you, as long as you end up getting the treatment you need that's all that matters.

jwdunne said "I would prefer the 3 hour A&E (ER) waiting times".

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by Xdes »

sp332 wrote: post #242
ElDiablo666 wrote: post #240

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People against universal healthcare are just good people who are confused and/or deluded. Their arguments will never really add up because it's only about corporations making profits and to that end people will need to be deluded and manipulated into believing that we shouldn't implement a proper system. Just remember this when you say you don't get it: it's just the political power of traitors speaking through human…

I'm against public healthcare in the USA because there's no way (in the current political climate) it won't be massively corrupt. Did you know the insurance companies were lobbying in favor of our new system? It's still about corporations making profits.

Public healthcare ought to be implemented at the local level for those that want it (which I don't). I'm quite fine with not seeking treatment when I get a terminal illness. If it ever gets to that point I would prefer euthanasia (illegal in the USA).

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by eloisant »

hueving wrote: post #174
overgard wrote: post #169

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That's why I qualified it with "if you're lucky to live long enough". So, yeah, you might be lucky enough to unexpectedly drop dead before some other scourge takes you However if you don't happen to fortune into a sudden unexpected death, your body will inevitably decay to the point that you will become a large financial and emotional burden on someone. (Or die homeless and friendless). But we can't take care of thos…

If the probabilities were as bad as you suggest, there would be no such thing as health insurance. They need to bring in more than they spend on health-care costs. Most people can't end in a devastating health-cost manner.

I think the real problem that affects everyone in US is the cost of anything health related before insurance. This may be a consequence of the fact that everything is private, but just look at the numbers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/why-an-mri...

You may be thinking "OK, the system is not great but I'm fine because I've got a good insurance", but that's not true. Even with a good insurance you're getting ripped off before of the cost before insurance of healthcare.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by jwdunne »

cowls wrote: post #226
jwdunne wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from the UK. The NHS is shambles and is spread very, very thin. Doctors are pissed off. Patients are pissed off. The government seems to be too. However I would prefer the 3 hour A&E (ER) waiting times, being spoken to like shit if it isn't as serious as originally thought and epic waiting lists for outpatient services than having companies profit from my health and the massive vulnerability that puts me in (on t…

The NHS is not a shambles. Its puts a lot of other countries health care system to shame. Your moaning about having a 3 hour wait for non urgent cases, when in other countries you'd have to pay a fortune for such treatment. And who cares how they talk to you, as long as you end up getting the treatment you need that's all that matters.

As a patient, I'm not really arsed. As a patient, I actively discourage putting strain on the system when unnecessary. I'm really moaning about how doctors are treated, and they are spread thin and are not rewarded by the system fairly by the effort they put in. The targets in place mean they cannot give patients the care they want to give, meaning there is little intrinsic motivation too.

I care, many people care. When you're feeling like shit, you don't want to be made to feel worse. It's simple.

I don't mind a 3 hour wait. The 3 hour wait just shows how thin doctors are spread. Lets face it, a 3 hour wait for any sick person in an uncomfortable chair is NOT going to do them any good.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by eloisant »

hueving wrote: post #115
jtreminio wrote: post #83

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Because he paid taxes to his government, not his friends.

Not to be rude, but that doesn't obligate the government to provide that particular service. Just because I pay taxes doesn't obligate the government to provide me a house. Why is that the case for health care?

Well, it's in the best interest of society as a whole to keep people in good health. For many reasons but in particular public health, because if people don't get vaccines or don't cure infectious diseases it can spread and potentially affect everyone.

This is why in France we have universal healthcare, that goes beyond legal residents but also benefits illegals (with AME, Aide Médicale d'État).

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by blueskin_ »

Xdes wrote: post #244
sp332 wrote: post #242

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I'm against public healthcare in the USA because there's no way (in the current political climate) it won't be massively corrupt. Did you know the insurance companies were lobbying in favor of our new system? It's still about corporations making profits.

Public healthcare ought to be implemented at the local level for those that want it (which I don't). I'm quite fine with not seeking treatment when I get a terminal illness. If it ever gets to that point I would prefer euthanasia (illegal in the USA).

Best bet is to fly to Switzerland when terminally ill, it's what I plan if it ever happens to me.

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by shawabawa3 »

Xdes wrote: post #244
sp332 wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm against public healthcare in the USA because there's no way (in the current political climate) it won't be massively corrupt. Did you know the insurance companies were lobbying in favor of our new system? It's still about corporations making profits.

Public healthcare ought to be implemented at the local level for those that want it (which I don't). I'm quite fine with not seeking treatment when I get a terminal illness. If it ever gets to that point I would prefer euthanasia (illegal in the USA).

> I'm quite fine with not seeking treatment when I get a terminal illness. If it ever gets to that point I would prefer euthanasia (illegal in the USA).

You say that now, but I guarantee you the moment you get diagnosed you change your mind. Especially considering so many terminal illnesses can in fact be cured with (very expensive) treatments.

Also, what about all the non-terminal illnessess? What happens if you break your leg? Or get stabbed? Or get in a car accident? Or any of the millions of other things that can happen?

Re: Richard Lynch, an awesome PHP community guy and former colleague needs our help

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Post by colechristensen »

crag wrote: post #213
colechristensen wrote: post #161

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The top can get the best care for the right price, the bottom has been inadequately supported though much progress has been made with ACA, and lots of people in the middle are inadequately prepared, because given the choice, they choose a higher standard of living instead of more safety for the future. To be given that choice is engrained in a lot of American culture. You won't find much sympathy for the middle class…

"You won't find much sympathy for the middle class who choose a nicer house in a more expensive city, a newer car, or a bigger family instead of safety and security for the future." The average cymo treatment is about $75,000 a hit. So, you know anyone who is prepared for that? The top 1% are, of course. But the rest of us? Those who don't have insurance are fucked. Those that do are ok until they get a bill for serv…

The thing that seems to be missing from most people's argument is that the cost doesn't go away if you move to a single-payer healthcare system. You still pay for that $75k in the form of higher taxes and higher prices... it doesn't get erased. Wanting a non-standard treatment and not being approved won't change with single-payer... you'll still have to sell everything you own to pay for it.
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