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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by sinak »

epaga wrote: post #50
sinak wrote: post #25

All of the people who built the site and the banner are volunteers who met on HN across various threads, and not members of any of the advocacy orgs or companies listed on the site. We're really interested in getting feedback on how future campaigns can be better, and happy to discuss some of the decisions we made. The non-profits involved did all the legal and organization lifting, and this is a great opportunity to…

Assuming these comments are being watched. The "thirteen principles" link on the main page gives a 404, it looks like there was a copy/paste error, it goes to: https://thedaywefightback.org/international/”https://necessa...

Fixed. Thanks :).

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by epaga »

sinak wrote: post #51
epaga wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming these comments are being watched. The "thirteen principles" link on the main page gives a 404, it looks like there was a copy/paste error, it goes to: https://thedaywefightback.org/international/”https://necessa...

Fixed. Thanks :).

excellent! well, i guess i played my part in the fight against surveillance today. ;)

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by motters »

insider03 wrote: post #38
mkl wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(My comment here is about the international version of the site - the USA one is much clearer in its purpose.) One crucial piece of information I haven't been able to find is what happens to the names and email addresses people enter. How does filling in those boxes amount to taking action? I am strongly opposed to mass surveillance, but thedaywefightback.org doesn't seem to be communicating successfully how exactly…

Your point is very good! It needs to be specified how our signatures will help in the fight against mass surveillance. We signed, and now what? Spread the word. But what is next?

I think the solution to this has to be on multiple fronts. It would be a good idea to push for laws which forbid certain kinds of surveillance. In the US the situation with the constitutionality of the NSA activity needs to be clarified. In the UK it would appear that the activities of GCHQ - particularly using DDoS and other "dirty" methods - is against the existing computer misuse laws. Investigating and following up on that would be useful. Probably they will make all of that retroactively legal, but there might be an opportunity to challenge and stop that in parliament.

On the technical front if you're a software engineer you can spend some of your time helping to develop, test and debug the various encrypted communication systems. Often security audits are needed. If you're not a software engineer then find out how to use encryption tools - PGP, XMPP/OTR, Tor, Bitmessage, etc and encourage your friends to use them.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by sinak2 »

dushyant wrote: post #48
sinak wrote: post #25

All of the people who built the site and the banner are volunteers who met on HN across various threads, and not members of any of the advocacy orgs or companies listed on the site. We're really interested in getting feedback on how future campaigns can be better, and happy to discuss some of the decisions we made. The non-profits involved did all the legal and organization lifting, and this is a great opportunity to…

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I switched into writing Markdown by accident. We've got the site frontend running on jekyll so it's static and easy to scale, and I've gotten too used to using the syntax.

I can't edit that comment any more (time expired), but the correct link is https://whispersystems.org

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by midhir »

Great initiative, I've shared & supported it. But is compiling a database of (full) names and email addresses of internet dissidents really wise given that that's the very medium these organisations are abusing?

And would it be enough to deter a significant number of people from putting their details in and showing support?

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by wjk »

super_mario wrote: post #52

So the suggestion here is to "fight back" by asking politely the people who are abusing you to please stop.

Thats what it seems like to me too. Can someone explain how this is not just another slacktivism thing? Hashtags and banners on a website...

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by eliasmacpherson »

mikegriff wrote: post #46
motters wrote: post #34

My little fight back are some instructions on how to provide your own internet services, including encryption. http://freedombone.uk.to/ It's not ideal, of course, but in the short term since there seems to be no political appetite for relinquishment or meaningful reform then technical mitigation strategies - if they can be sufficiently popularised - may help to reduce the harm resulting from mass surveillance. Ultim…

That's a good little installation document. I'm going to give that a go with a raspberry pi when I get home. How up to date are the instructions?

It's not little - it's quite comprehensive. Excellent job done. It's explained quite well in a very enjoyable writing style.

I think anyone who knows enough to add a banner to a webpage can work their way through the document.

It's a good idea to promote it as an alternative because from the outside at least, it seems freedombox has lost momentum since the privoxy release, even though the idea is sound.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by davidw »

CalRobert wrote: post #43
renang wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Afaik NSA is/was gathering information worldwide.

True, but as congresspeople are elected by the people of the US they would only be keen on hearing from them (well, that's the idea at least - in reality they don't seem to worry a lot about what a small but informed contingent cares about)

Indeed: they only take calls from their own constituents. I, as an Oregonian, will be ignored if I call a representative, from, say, Iowa.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by baldfat »

It is treat as a "Tin Hat" issue, or a Occupy Wall Street movement. The people in my circle (several hundred) see this as a non-issue.

We have an issue of education and clear message. Especially how this counters the Constitution.

Maybe a push for everyone to read "1984" :)

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