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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by sinak »

einhverfr wrote: post #6

As far as I am concerned, fighting back for a day is useless. The NSA is probably going to find they have already lost this battle because we now trust their co-conspirators a lot less. It's the slow, relatively minor pressure over time by billions of people that will change things. But the real danger is with the next battle. I think we are going to see a major showdown over legality of encryption generally within t…

I really, really don't think anyone is trying to say that this is the /only/ thing you should do.

Many of the people organizing this campaign worked on any number of different campaigns over the last 6 months (Stop Watching Us, Restore the Fourth rallies, a rally in DC, Defund The NSA), so we'd be the last to say that this is the only day you should take action.

Rather, this is a single day for all of us who care about the isuee to rally round and do something to reach a critical mass of action that gets noticed on capitol hill. And also to help educate people who've tuned out of NSA stories by reiterating all the things the NSA is doing to erode privacy.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs »

lpolovets wrote: post #10

I think it's interesting that there are ~200k Twitter/Facebook shares at the time of this comment, but less than 10k calls/emails. The message seems to be, "I think contacting legislators is a great idea! I hope some of my friends do that.."

Chiming in as one of the developers, these share totals are the total from when the campaign first started. The tools for calling/emailing/petitioning have only been active for two or so hours.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by davidw »

lpolovets wrote: post #10

I think it's interesting that there are ~200k Twitter/Facebook shares at the time of this comment, but less than 10k calls/emails. The message seems to be, "I think contacting legislators is a great idea! I hope some of my friends do that.."

It is currently 4:27 AM on the east coast of the US. Most Americans are sleeping at the moment, and I doubt congressional offices are open.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by [deleted] »

lpolovets wrote: post #10

I think it's interesting that there are ~200k Twitter/Facebook shares at the time of this comment, but less than 10k calls/emails. The message seems to be, "I think contacting legislators is a great idea! I hope some of my friends do that.."

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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by brokenparser »

lucastx wrote: post #8
einhverfr wrote: post #6

As far as I am concerned, fighting back for a day is useless. The NSA is probably going to find they have already lost this battle because we now trust their co-conspirators a lot less. It's the slow, relatively minor pressure over time by billions of people that will change things. But the real danger is with the next battle. I think we are going to see a major showdown over legality of encryption generally within t…

I think this is more about making noise to remember people -- people which does not follow tech and NSA news -- that surveillance is still a problem, that Snowden is still stuck in Hong Kong, that the NSA still collects a huge amount of personal information from non-targets. But you're right the battle is much bigger than that.

He's actually on a temporary asylum in Russia, his stay in Hong Kong was short lived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Temporary_asylu...

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by renang »

davidw wrote: post #13
lpolovets wrote: post #10

I think it's interesting that there are ~200k Twitter/Facebook shares at the time of this comment, but less than 10k calls/emails. The message seems to be, "I think contacting legislators is a great idea! I hope some of my friends do that.."

It is currently 4:27 AM on the east coast of the US. Most Americans are sleeping at the moment, and I doubt congressional offices are open.

Afaik NSA is/was gathering information worldwide.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by chalst »

Oh, a flash protest, one that seems to have been announced with a press release only yesterday and pushed by the EFF just one hour ago.

Well, it is too short notice for me to invest the time to black out my website, so I will not be supporting this. Maybe there will be a similar action next year that I will support, if it is better advertised beforehand.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by brokenparser »

chalst wrote: post #17

Oh, a flash protest, one that seems to have been announced with a press release only yesterday and pushed by the EFF just one hour ago. Well, it is too short notice for me to invest the time to black out my website, so I will not be supporting this. Maybe there will be a similar action next year that I will support, if it is better advertised beforehand.

It was announced here a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7037548

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

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Post by jaboutboul »

davidw wrote: post #13
lpolovets wrote: post #10

I think it's interesting that there are ~200k Twitter/Facebook shares at the time of this comment, but less than 10k calls/emails. The message seems to be, "I think contacting legislators is a great idea! I hope some of my friends do that.."

It is currently 4:27 AM on the east coast of the US. Most Americans are sleeping at the moment, and I doubt congressional offices are open.

Some congressman/senators are busier at night than during the day ;)
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