I run a dating site as a side project. For me Google ads are too expensive and I couldn't target a particular
country/age/sex as in facebook. (Yeah, likes are useless. But I just wanted eyeballs.)
But in December they suddenly disapproved all the ads. The official reason is they want to review and remove
inappropriate ads and the advertiser has to apply again on Feb 15. Then I read elsewhere on various forums that
big dating advertisers are still allowed to advertise (I can see some ads) and this is a ploy to reduce the
competition for big players during Valentine's Day season. Or else why Feb 15? Whatever you say about google, at least
they strive to be fair and honest. I think being fair and honest is not in facebook's DNA. (Yeah, It is a throwaway account since I still want to advertise there :( )
Facebook Fraud [video]
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Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
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My company spends about 100x more money with Google on ads than we do on Facebook ads. Why? Because every time I test advertising on Facebook (outside of retargeting), 90%+ of the engagement looks like garbage. I buy likes, I get likes from people that are clearly not target customers. I boost posts, it makes no sense who seems them and who comments. I could never figure out why people that are clearly not target cus…
This is not a Facebook problem. It's a problem with how YOU are running Facebook ads.
This IS a Facebook problem. Whether they are not doing their job properly or customers have problems understanding their platform. But whatever it is, it still affects FB directly, so of course it's their problem.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not a Facebook problem. It's a problem with how YOU are running Facebook ads.
This IS a Facebook problem. Whether they are not doing their job properly or customers have problems understanding their platform. But whatever it is, it still affects FB directly, so of course it's their problem.
No, it's not. This is as much of a Facebook problem as it is Google's problem that people send SPAM to people on the internet. This guy doesn't know how to market. People think that advertising is a magic button that you push and you get results. Hilarious.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
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You are a freaking WUSSY! And you have NO life,let alone social life. Social life is OUTSIDE, face to face, NOT on facebook. Get a fucking life, freaking zombie.
If deleting your Facebook would not have a negative affect on your real life social life, you are not using it the way most people do. Almost every organised event that I go to starts with a Facebook invite, or someone sharing the event on their feed. It's also a massive time waster, but until another event service gains actual adoption (a service such as this is useless without users, right?), I'll keep using Facebo…
If your life relies on Facebook, then you have to social life and no friends ad all, you just have an illusion. If no one would call you for an event,what does this say about you?
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
#295Here we go again. It's a new quarter. Now that earnings decimated the young-people-dont-use-facebook myth, now we have the click-fraud-is-a huge-systemic-problem myth. Haters be hatin.
This video does not seem like hate to me. The guy starts by how he tried to increase Facebook likes through legitimate Facebook endorsed advertisement and shows the data how that worked out for him. Of course, the data he uses is rather thin, but he makes a good point.
He used the endorsement poorly. He does a way better job at putting on a show than providing a convincing argument.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
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I think you're misunderstanding the word "fake" in this context. He means they are inauthentic likes, aka likes from real people who don't actually like what they're clicking the Like button on.
The problem is that he's intentionally buying likes from people he KNOWS aren't responsive. The simple solution? Stop targetting the unresponsive countries. It's not rocket science. It's actually super-brain-dead obvious. If you're buying likes from India -- and no Indians are responding to your content -- then why would you keep buying likes from India? This is stuff you can spend $5 to figure out. It is very, very,…
Thank you for being one of the few logical people in this thread. People love to bring out their pitchforks, and report / downvote (or whatever it is they do here) when someone disrupts the "flow" of things.
The guy ran a poor ad. It's his fault, not Facebooks.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
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"But I can't go really long without facebook since all is planned from there, the parties, the social events, the foreign friends visiting my city, foreign friends keeping in touch with me..." I have two questions to respond to this - how did people do all of these things before the facebook platform? What is stopping you from doing these same things? I find it fascinating that people treat websites like facebook lik…
> I have two questions to respond to this - how did people do all of these things before the facebook platform? What is stopping you from doing these same things? Some of "these things" did not exist before. Like yesterday a former coworker of mine posted a bunch of pictures of her kids growing up, it was interesting and reminded me how the time flies. Would I ask around acquaintances for her phone number, then get o…
This is a bit disingenuous to say these kind of reflection were not possible before. What happened in the old days was that your social life was much more localized : your street, your neighborhood, your village, your parish, etc. So rather that looking at pictures, you would be on your porch and you would be looking at your friend's kids playing in the street , wondering how all these years had gone so fast. Social platform allow to extend your social network beyond some (arbitrary) geographical limitations, but it does not really add anything to the human experience that was not there before, so to speak. I know that I am stating the obvious, but I think "some of these things did not exit before" was a bit too strong.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
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Well, there is one solution which wasn't mentioned in the video, get the bots to like your posts so they get visibility leading to actual users seeing them.
it was mentioned in the video, doing this creates a negative effect. the video mentioned how real/useful engagement didn't change before and after he got all those fake likes
I meant likes on particular posts on the page. Not the page itself.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
#299This makes me hate the web. I like the internet, but facebook infested so many websites with those widgets... If facebook keeps living, I'll say "meeeh". If it goes down, I'll say "GREAT. Now's the chance for reddit and twitter and G+ and others".
And just what makes you think that the facebook replacement won't do exactly what they're doing, or, rather, aren't currently doing exactly what facebook is doing? Can you convince yourself that reddit isn't gamed by advertisers and companies in general? Can you convince yourself that twitter isn't as well? Can you convince yourself that G+ isn't gamed by one of the other eighteen people using it? Couldn't help mysel…
still prefer reddit though. facebook is really a bleak thing to use.
I don't care about a replacement, maybe there won't be any, I just want to see it die. I just think other social networks are less evil than facebook, that's all.
Being an asshole is not mandatory for a corporation.
Re: Facebook Fraud [video]
#300I have my pet theory. I'm yet to find significant evidence for or against it, but it's what my hunch tells me. The theory goes like this: All on-line ads are mostly worthless - most clicks are from clickfarms, and the genuine parts are mostly by clickjacking or accidental misclicks. Almost no one really wants to buy stuff via ads. Ad agencies keep telling companies that advertising online will generate lots of revenu…
I'm an anti-ads person, even though I know it hurts some of the sites I like who depend on advertising.
I'm anti-ads because the kind of ads that I am being exposed to are invasive, especially re-targeting ads. I.e. those ads where you've been on a website and thought about buying something, then decided against it? Then you get the same product advertised to you on random other sites you visit.
I cannot stand it when those ads follow me around. In fact, assuming I didn't buy the product or service for a good reason, and I do want to buy the product, I will deliberately buy from a competitor, because fuck you and your invasion of my privacy. It is my own little way of silent protest.
I assume I'm in a minority though and most people don't care. Most of the time I use an ad-blocker. iPad doesn't have a solution unfortunately.