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Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by anaphor »

paultag wrote: post #39
anaphor wrote: post #37

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I can answer most of these just from reading the stuff linked here and educated guesses. lisp-1, bastardized-lexical (like python, though you could create your own binding constructs with macros), 2-way, yes, yes (loop/recur, no TCO afaict or trampolining), yes, yes

trampolining - confirmed

Then you should give this a read if you haven't: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~dfried/ts.ps

tl;dr you can actually generalize trampolining quite a bit in order to get co-operative threading.

Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by [deleted] »

frou_dh wrote: post #33
wwweston wrote: post #30

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People can complain about anything they want, just like you are, and his comment about a preferred norm doesn't constitute pestering any more than yours does.

It's not the same at all. Someone initiating an offtopic kerfuffle in a public forum is inviting responses. Hopefully the author's deletion spree was lightbulb and not just karma preservation.

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Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by tomp »

Crito wrote: post #15
[deleted] wrote: post #9

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Give me a fucking break, neutering language because somebody somewhere might hypothetically be emotionally damaged by reading it is something that we can save for marketers writing bone-dry press releases. If you don't like that word, then you don't have to say it. Pestering other people for saying it is a joke. Why don't you go submit pull requests to every single fucking project using the WTFPL license while you ar…

What was the original (now deleted) comment about?

Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by Crito »

hk__2 wrote: post #28
[deleted] wrote: post #11

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Can someone explain for non-native English speakers what’s the problem with “goddamn”?

Some people who are members of Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Mormonism, etc), interpret the (2nd or 3rd Commandment, depending on how you are counting) "shall not take the lords name in vain" thing to imply that you must not say the word "god" (You will frequently see 'g-d' used by these people). Others see it as a prohibition against using the word "god" irreverently. Others see it as a prohibition against using the word "god" when combined with other "swear words" (this is the "goddamn" case, "damn" being an extremely mild "swear word" that can be found in PG movies). Others still go further and say that the commandment forbids the use of 'minced oaths', such as 'heck' (hell), 'darn' or 'dang' (damn), 'gosh' (god).

For the most part, everybody considers this restriction something that they should only expect of themselves (very similar to how it is unheard of for a Jewish or Muslim person in America to object to somebody else eating pork). Rarely, you encounter somebody who does not have a strong grasp on that concept.

Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by paultag »

anaphor wrote: post #41
paultag wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

trampolining - confirmed

Then you should give this a read if you haven't: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~dfried/ts.ps tl;dr you can actually generalize trampolining quite a bit in order to get co-operative threading.

Interesting, thanks for that! I'll read it over on the train in the morning and see if I can't fudge it in :)

Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by Crito »

[deleted] wrote: post #38
Crito wrote: post #34

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He is asking that others abide by the rules and regulations of his religion. What do you think that I should call it?

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> "I don't say things that I know are offensive to you."

I ask for nothing of the sort. You may behave how you wish, but don't expect others to mime you in return as a favour to you.

Your religious rules are your religious rules. They are accepted "common decency". We certainly do not have them in common.

Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by frou_dh »

[deleted] wrote: post #42
frou_dh wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the same at all. Someone initiating an offtopic kerfuffle in a public forum is inviting responses. Hopefully the author's deletion spree was lightbulb and not just karma preservation.

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It is an easy concept to grasp. The way you presented it was insufferable, and I'm fairly certain you did have a comment moaning about downvotes.

Re: Hy, a Lisp that compiles to Python

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Post by tdees40 »

Crito wrote: post #34
tdees40 wrote: post #23

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And somehow we've gone from a minor request for the removal of vulgarity to "cultural imperialism". Sheesh.

He is asking that others abide by the rules and regulations of his religion. What do you think that I should call it?

Dude, it's marketing. If you want to promote your language, don't make it offend people. It doesn't matter if the offense holds up to your personal views on what should and shouldn't be offensive.
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