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No one should allow the tools used to create a website to influence which one they would choose as best... and this is virtually guaranteed at a "Future Business Leaders of America conference".

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#13
Wow. Egotistical much? 2nd place ain't bad. And who cares how it was made? I have just as much disdain for working in Dreamweaver, but if the site works, it works. The user doesn't care that your source code is prettier.

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#14
This reminds me of some of the clashes I see with many developers and some of the tech they come upon. There is a lot of disdain out there towards other developers that use/prefer stuff like WordPress, Drupal, PHP, Rails, vanilla jQuery, no CSS preprocessor, etc. However, I see a lot of developers who work in these technologies able to release solid products that work just fine.

In the end, the user doesn't care about what tech you used - they mainly care whether the site is usable, and looks clean. It doesn't matter whether you used [insert fancy tech/library/etc.]. I think a lot of us developers could learn from that and keep things in perspective, myself included.

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#15
So, maybe I have too much faith in people here, but I think this post is satire. While it's an extreme example, the attitude the author espouses- that there is one right way to do things and anyone doing otherwise is an idiot -is definitely not unheard. Hell, I've been plenty guilty of it myself, looking down my nose at someone using Eclipse as I struggle to remember 8 button long Emacs shortcuts.

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#16

"Now, I didn’t necessarily see the winning groups site, but you don’t have to – it was made in Dreamweaver!" I want to believe that the arrogant tone in combination with this line are some sort of punch line or social experiment that I'm just not getting. Please?

I'm with you, I finished wondering if I was being trolled.

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post #14

This reminds me of some of the clashes I see with many developers and some of the tech they come upon. There is a lot of disdain out there towards other developers that use/prefer stuff like WordPress, Drupal, PHP, Rails, vanilla jQuery, no CSS preprocessor, etc. However, I see a lot of developers who work in these technologies able to release solid products that work just fine. In the end, the user doesn't care abou…

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#18
Funny.

I was hand coding back in 1997 and loved Dreamweaver 1.0 because I could peel back the covers and fiddle with the underlying JS to produce code identical to what I had been typing out tag by tag.

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> I was eager to find out how they made their site. I had asked booth groups and they each answered, “Dreamweaver.” “Oh. Nice.”, I thought, trying to hold back any laughter that I may have had. I was also asked the same question in return, saying “I hand coded it.” I was given the deer in the headlights stare. I don’t know if I received this look because they had no idea what I meant/said, or if they were in such awe…

"This site is pretty good, not as good as what the other guy whipped up, but he seems like a jerk to work with and we may need additional support afterwards. Let's go with option B."

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#20

"Now, I didn’t necessarily see the winning groups site, but you don’t have to – it was made in Dreamweaver!" I want to believe that the arrogant tone in combination with this line are some sort of punch line or social experiment that I'm just not getting. Please?

I'm with you, I finished wondering if I was being trolled.

Add me to the list.

I kept waiting to see a punchline or a gotcha, but it just kept getting worse. Like one of the "nice guys" who wonders why the girl picks the "jerk".

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