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The NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program

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the NSA often locates drone targets by analyzing the activity of a SIM card, rather than the actual content of the calls. Based on his experience, he has come to believe that the drone program amounts to little more than death by unreliable metadata. "I've got nothing to hide..." The Obama administration has repeatedly insisted that its operations kill terrorists with the utmost precision. Note that "accuracy" and "p…

> Note that "accuracy" and "precision" aren't the same thing.

Drilled into us early in freshman engineering classes.

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>>"The NSA geolocation system used by JSOC is known by the code name GILGAMESH. Under the program, a specially constructed device is attached to the drone. As the drone circles, the device locates the SIM card or handset that the military believes is used by the target." >>"The agency also equips drones and other aircraft with devices known as “virtual base-tower transceivers” – creating, in effect, a fake cell phone…

Within a few years you will probably be able to buy such a drone for $1000 on the internet. Everyone is going to want one.

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Jacob Appelbaum has been saying this for a while already. They use NSA's data to do "signature strikes", i.e. strikes where they may assassinate someone only based on the "harmless metadata" they have on him. Talked to someone who may have talked to someone else from a "terrorist organization"? Well, you may now be on a drone target list. This is going to get exponentially worse as they move to automated drone assass…

War will always lead to the death and injury of people who do not fit within the political motivation of the action. By removing the passion of soldiers we see how bad a lot of the data is. The data was always bad, but that was overshadowed by the suffering caused by actual malevolence. If a war is justifiable for humanitarian reasons the risk to civilians is probably worth it. Soldiers have lots of unintended consequences to civilian populations which drones effectively remove; this could be a good thing. Of course people said similar things about area bombing in WWII so I wouldn't bet on it.

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post #12

“turns out I’m really good at killing people.” The president added, “Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.” Ironic words for a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Another huge piece of news from this article:

- "The [SHENANIGANS] operation – previously undisclosed – utilizes a pod on aircraft that vacuums up massive amounts of data from any wireless routers, computers, smart phones or other electronic devices that are within range."

- "The operator describes how, from almost four miles in the air, he searched for communications devices"

- "VICTORYDANCE, he adds, “mapped the Wi-Fi fingerprint of nearly every major town in Yemen.”

This is something we didn't even know is possible: drones are cataloguing the MAC addresses, BSSIDs, ESSIDs (unique identifiers for things like your iPhone and the wireless adapter on your PC, laptop, or tablet) of people's personal electronics, at the scale of cities, from so high up in the air you can't even see the drone, and they're creating "fingerprints" from it. That means what devices "belong" in what city.

They don't suspect these people of any wrongdoing or criminal activity - how could they? They're monitoring entire cities. This is exactly what Snowden warned us about: the untargeted mass surveillance of entire populations.

The next time you hear about domestic drones for police and "homeland security," remember this article.

[The Day We Fight Back rally](http://www.thedaywefightback.org) is tomorrow.

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“turns out I’m really good at killing people.” The president added, “Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.” Ironic words for a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

I think the "change" slogan on all those Obama posters referred to the change to his promises and projected morals.

I think they hoped we'd believe in the change we we noted it was stamped with the words "In God We Trust."

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some of the problem... Right now I get texts and voice mail from people attempting to contact the former owner of the SIM Identity I have..it happens any time you buy a prepaid phone..sometimes you get a previously owned SIM id.. Guess where this most active as far as buying a prepaid phone? Developing countries such as Africa and Middle East.. This is a very highly political volatile situation waiting to blow up in…

> This is a very highly political volatile situation waiting to blow up in a Presidents face.

You have to look at this in the overall picture of military size and spending though as well. Since WWII, with a few blips, the size of our armed forces (in the US) has been slowly decreasing, while military spending has been increasing at a relatively steady rate (outside of actual war-time expenses) regardless of who is in office.

But the spending isn't equal. It is going up in critical areas, including tactical aircraft at an exponential rate. At current projections unless something changes, in 2054, the entire defence budget will be enough to buy one tactical aircraft. Norman Augustine pointed that out in the mid-1980's, but we are still on track.

So here's what I see, and it is genuinely scary:

I see a shrinking US military armed with ever more-effective force-multiplying weapons (but insufficient people) trying very hard to maintain control over key strategic areas they see in the world, while the weapons are getting stronger and the human side is getting weaker. There is no way this will continue for very long. It will stir up more and more justified resentment in the world which will face a country less and less prepared to deal with it.

All of this is a proxy for having real strength in arms.

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post #12

“turns out I’m really good at killing people.” The president added, “Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.” Ironic words for a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

actual_hacker: you've been hellbanned. You only have two comments.. so I'm guessing someone didn't like your nic(?)
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