Now they should start to pray so it will never segfault.)
Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
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Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#112OpenRC is the only sysvinit alternative that even tries to comply with unix way and yet (judging from Ace Attorney retelling at least) sadly it is totally ignored by Debian devs.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know less about the new Linux ones, but a brief summary of the two big "traditional" ones: Linux systems traditionally use "SysV Init", the init system from AT&T UNIX System V (1983). It's the one that has: 1) run levels; and 2) a pile of shell scripts in /etc/init.d that run on run-level changes. Run levels probably make most sense if you think of Ye Olde Mainframe booting: first it initializes core services, then…
Whoa! You aren't bashing any of them and the explanation is 100% correct! WHAT HAS THE INTERNETS COME TO? Congratulations on a very well-written summary!
Not so loud, they'll hear you!
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#114Those are the votes for systemd: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00294.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00283.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00297.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00282.html For anyone wondering, 4 votes are enough because Bdale's vote (the chairman of the Technical Committee) count as two votes in case of a draw. EDIT: see…
Looks like it's clear now. Colin Watson voted for Upstart[1], so systemd wins.
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00332.html
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#115Those are the votes for systemd: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00294.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00283.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00297.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00282.html For anyone wondering, 4 votes are enough because Bdale's vote (the chairman of the Technical Committee) count as two votes in case of a draw. EDIT: see…
Looks like it's clear now. Colin Watson voted for Upstart[1], so systemd wins. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00332.html
Indeed. Note that the reason systemd wins is that Colin voted systemd ahead of further discussion, now defeating it with at least 5 votes from the 8. And then in the subsequent voting stage systemd has at least 4 votes + the chair's casting vote as per the above post.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Systemd isn't portable to non-linux. (And while you may not care about debian kfreebsd, some people do)
There are no working ports of upstart to non-linux, and up until 2 months ago no-one was even trying to. It's about as portable as systemd (i.e. with a bunch of work and if you don't mind forking it).
If I were to port systemd to non-linux I wouldn't fork it. I would re-implement its interfaces (which are fairly stable and well-documented).
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the second part: http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/jeu.php?id_proces=57899
Unfortunately, the second part seems to get stuck in "cross examination" and it's impossible to continue.
It's clearly still a work in progress and incomplete. Wait, I'm sure it'll be extended.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#118For a fun retelling of the events (I think this only works on Firefox): http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/jeu.php?id_proces=57684
It works perfectly in chrome. I don't know what's with the obnoxious yellow banner - I thought firefox people were against the "best viewed in internet explorer" attitude.
I didn't know there was a block of "firefox people", or that everyone developing for firefox was a member and shared the opinions they have.
Where's their mailing list/forum?
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry for spreading misinformation, it seems that I got exited too soon. Still, I find somewhat unlikely that all the others member will vote F ahead of D. Are you referring to the "Technical Committee makes decisions only as last resort." paragraph of the Debian constitution? It's a bit cryptic for a non-native like me, so I'm not sure that I'm reading it right.
Can you change the title? The current title is so misleading that I feel like flagging it is in order.
As of an hour ago the topic is now correct.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#120Those are the votes for systemd: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00294.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00283.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00297.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00282.html For anyone wondering, 4 votes are enough because Bdale's vote (the chairman of the Technical Committee) count as two votes in case of a draw. EDIT: see…
When you see how complex it all is, no wonder people make snide comments about committees.