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Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by dangrossman »

eropple wrote: post #14
halter73 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The modal box does have a close button. Perhaps your ad blocker is blocking the close button.

So it is. Which is one of the uglier fuck-you behaviors a company can pull. (I make any web work I do work with or without an adblocker, because I don't own their browser.)

The DOM chain to that button is `#colorbox #cboxContent #cboxClose`. What part of that looks designed to intentionally trigger an ad blocker so you can't close it? They didn't "pull" anything. It's blocked because the CDN they host their static images on has the word "ad" in the domain (static.adziff.com -- named after their company, Ziff Davis); that's called a false positive.

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by rikacomet »

Trust is a thin line. One must not trust anyone blindly, that is true. But watching and surveying every move of your own allies, breaks your own reputation. That is not trusting your allies at all!

But this is a good news, small.. yet a welcome. Though this does not mean that France is not in with the mass surveillance itself(it might just be a diplomatic maneuver). But it does mean that at least a few have realized that privacy of citizens is not something you can mess around with.

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by sushirain »

Unfortunately, the article doesn't explain what is the dispute between Google and France. A link to from the article to another one answers it:

At issue is an update to Google's privacy policy that went into effect on March 1, 2012. The revamp consolidated 70 or so privacy policies across Google's products down to one. But with this change, Google also switched to one profile for users across all services rather than separate logins for offerings like YouTube, Search, and Blogger.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424952,00.asp

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by gcb0 »

derekp7 wrote: post #15

Would it be reasonable for, say, a car manufacturer to be forced to include a statement painted on the side of each car they sold for a period of time? Or a consumer electronics manufacture to have an apology statement on, say, a TV that gets displayed whenever you change channels? Something like that would severely damage their product. So why is it reasonable to require a tech company to deface their product? Now i…

did you ever looked in the passenger sunscreen?

also, how do a web site email their customers and issue a recall on their private information that was already illegally shared away?

your analogy is awful.

furthermore, the precedent is already set. just look at the millions of european sites and their cookie warnings... its the same thing. why google should be exempt in this case which is essentially the same thing?

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by ithkuil »

nraynaud wrote: post #17

CAUTION, THIS IS NOT TRUE. Google is appealing the sanction, and in the mean time they asked an emergency injunction ("référé") for not having to do the message part of the sanction waiting for the appeal (on the ground that if they win the appeal, their reputation would already be damaged by the message). The appeal has absolutely not been ruled. The "emergency" judge simply declared that what they asked for was not…

Indeed, the title says "Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr", not "Fined".

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by jheriko »

I'm just glad France are actually making the effort. Things like law and tax aren't things that should go away as you become big and wealthy, and ultimately going against the law of the land whilst not showing respect for it is asking for trouble.

I hope Google are additionally penalised for their arrogance...

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

derekp7 wrote: post #15

Would it be reasonable for, say, a car manufacturer to be forced to include a statement painted on the side of each car they sold for a period of time? Or a consumer electronics manufacture to have an apology statement on, say, a TV that gets displayed whenever you change channels? Something like that would severely damage their product. So why is it reasonable to require a tech company to deface their product? Now i…

If a car manufacturer failed on their core responsibility (safely transporting people), they would be happy to get just a notice on the car!

Re: Google Loses Appeal, Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr

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Post by nraynaud »

ithkuil wrote: post #27
nraynaud wrote: post #17

CAUTION, THIS IS NOT TRUE. Google is appealing the sanction, and in the mean time they asked an emergency injunction ("référé") for not having to do the message part of the sanction waiting for the appeal (on the ground that if they win the appeal, their reputation would already be damaged by the message). The appeal has absolutely not been ruled. The "emergency" judge simply declared that what they asked for was not…

Indeed, the title says "Forced to Publish €150,000 Fine on Google.fr", not "Fined".

technically it's completely wrong, they are fined (that's exactly what they are appealing), and they did not lose the appeal.
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