For a fun retelling of the events (I think this only works on Firefox): http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/jeu.php?id_proces=57684
Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
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Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#42Those are the votes for systemd: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00294.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00283.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00297.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00282.html For anyone wondering, 4 votes are enough because Bdale's vote (the chairman of the Technical Committee) count as two votes in case of a draw. EDIT: see…
Fwiw, the only other vote that's been cast so far, which is in the other direction (3 people haven't yet voted): https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00288.html
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#43For a fun retelling of the events (I think this only works on Firefox): http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/jeu.php?id_proces=57684
That is huge though. I felt I was spending way too much time watching this and hoped it was getting to a close, while I around message 250 out of 700. (Of part 1 it seems?!)
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is huge though. I felt I was spending way too much time watching this and hoped it was getting to a close, while I around message 250 out of 700. (Of part 1 it seems?!)
Yeah, endless debate. Welcome to Debian decision-making. :-)
I'd say the discussion is a good/fun thing to present in this form, but abbreviated.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#45Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#46For a fun retelling of the events (I think this only works on Firefox): http://aceattorney.sparklin.org/jeu.php?id_proces=57684
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#47Can anyone give a quick rundown of the different init systems? For the most part it can get confusing for a non day to day system administrator when I am trying to get a program to "run on boot". Between rc.local, init.d, run levels, etc. sometimes it is just frustrating.
launchd is the init system used by Mac OSX and has been ported to FreeBSD a few years ago with a recent resurgent effort for improvements [1]. It has been suggested that launchd could one day be the new FreeBSD init system due to speed and feature improvements, but many FreeBSD users think that the init system is a non-issue and efforts could be better spent elsewhere. launchd has also been criticized as to have been developed for OSX and not BSD (e.g. it depends on CoreFoundation features).
There is growing concern that applications will become more reliant on systemd and therefore Linux-only features [2], reducing or eliminating portability to the BSDs. Unfortunately, most conversations about init systems and FreeBSD degenerate into flame wars [3].
[1]: https://github.com/rtyler/openlaunchd
[2]: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg//2013/07/13/systemd-not...
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Upstart was created before systemd. Edit: Upstart was a great sysvinit replacement, at least during those years before systemd appeared.
upstart was always a mediocre to terrible sysv replacement. The fact it couldn't handle such insignificant programs like postfix natively speaks volumes.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#49http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html
tl;dc: systemd replaces the bash scripts you're used to grepping through with unix .conf files that fit on the screen.
Re: Debian committee members vote for systemd as init system
#50Can anyone give a quick rundown of the different init systems? For the most part it can get confusing for a non day to day system administrator when I am trying to get a program to "run on boot". Between rc.local, init.d, run levels, etc. sometimes it is just frustrating.