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Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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Re: Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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TL;DR: "I'm not an AI/ML anything by any stretch of imagination"

good one, I accept it :) edit: so you think human intelligence is mainly a probability machine?

My personal suspicion is that it's an ensemble approach involving both probabilistic and symbolic methods. But I think that human intelligence is largely driven by probabilistic methods.

But, I also "am not an AI/ML anything", I just read a lot on the subject and think about it a lot.

Re: Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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The problem with this assumption is that one doesn't have to be aware of how their own brains work in order for them to work.

The fact that people seem to be universally bad at assessing probabilities means only that however their brains work, that mechanism doesn't produce intelligences that are finely adapted at assessing probabilities. The machinery that is producing that intelligence could still be completely probabilistic itself.

Humans are fantastic at pattern recognition, but that doesn't mean that our intelligence must have been created by a pattern recognition algorithm.

Re: Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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This article is deeply flawed. First of all, it's premise is flawed; secondly, it's supporting evidence is flawed.

Example from supporting evidence:

"then people would be naturally great at probability, and we know we suck at probability"

No, this does not follow at all. There is absolutely no reason to assume that a probabilistic algorithm would somehow lead to better results when dealing with probabilities at a much higher level.

Example from premise:

- No argument for why "if real intelligences aren't probabilistic, therefore probabilistic intelligences can't work" is given.

- Just because your models come from statistical learning (such as SVMs or Bayesian methods, as the author names) does not mean your resulting algorithm is probabilistic.

Flagging.

Re: Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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post #3

TL;DR: "I'm not an AI/ML anything by any stretch of imagination"

good one, I accept it :) edit: so you think human intelligence is mainly a probability machine?

I don't really want to discourage teenagers from public writing, but if you're really confused about why this is being negatively received...

The most glaring thing: your three argumentative points could be simultaneously true and the assertion "Probabilistic AI can't be AI" could still be false.

Re: Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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I disagree with some of the premises.

We are great at probability, we compute it unconsciously. Every person knows the approximate probability of flipping a coin to show heads, pulling a card from a stack, or being rejected/successful when asking a date out (we always say our 'chances' are good/bad, depending on factors we think are important).

In our day to day lives, many decisions are driven by what we think the 'odds' are of our endeavor being successful.

Re: Probabilistic AI can't be AI

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...people would be naturally great at probability, and we know we suck at probability

Human bodies are based on molecules, it doesn't imply that people understand chemistry.

Computer chips are based on transistors, it doesn't imply that computers understand electronics.

Sorry, but your assumption that knowledge is inherited by foundations would imply that everything understands the Universe.

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