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FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by sho_hn »

ye wrote: post #9

Photoshop is not mainly a painting application, though it can be used as one. The strength of Photoshop is in its automation, ability to integrate with all kinds of things, ability to open a hundred different formats by default, plugins, 16-bit-per-channel support, color management, work with huge files, etc etc etc. This looks like a competitor for ArtRage or Corel Paint.

http://krita.org/faq/item/16-krita-features contains some information on the features supported by Krita, including 16 bit per channel colorspaces (including Lab, a much-vaunted Photoshop feature). Krita is also available with support for OpenColorIO, and integration into the asset pipelines found e.g. in VFX studios is part of its mission statement (support for Photoshop's file formats has been steadily increasing along the way).

You're entirely correct about Krita's focus on painting (a focus it has greatly benefited from; see also my other comment), but it turns out the kinds of foundations required by a good painting application offer utility in many use cases.

Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by sho_hn »

a-nikolaev wrote: post #10
sho_hn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Krita was started in 1999, only four years after GIMP. For most of their existence, these two programs have been developed in parallel. http://slangkamp.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/10-years-of-krita/ http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi/kde/krita_10_years.h... Part of the reason Krita development has accelerated massively in the last couple of years is that its team decided on a clear mission statement at some point,…

Can you compare Krita and MyPaint[1]? (In terms of features, completeness, UI, etc.) From the video, it seems that Krita is a bit more advanced, with image transformations, texture tiling and probably other features. But both programs are digital painting applications, much more than GIMP, which is a generic graphics editor. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyPaint

Krita and MyPaint share a common interest in implementing things like sophisticated brush engines and color mixing models, and MyPaint is strong there and has been an influence on Krita (perhaps also vice-versa, though I don't follow MyPaint as closely).

One difference might be that Krita existed as a project to write a raster graphics editor for years before deciding to double-down on painting, and did quite a bit of broad foundational work in that space, like aiming to operate colorspace-independently and implementing various general raster editing tools (e.g. a sophisticated layer and adjustment layer system). Krita retains those traits today, which I feel makes it broader in actual scope than MyPaint, which I think directly started out as a personal project to write a stylus-driven painting app and then grew out from there.

Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by pekk »

justin66 wrote: post #12
pekk wrote: post #8

Serious question: how is Krita a "Photoshop killer" and GIMP not one?

Not once in that demo video did I see the usability monster leap out and try to stomp on anyone's balls. So it doesn't really invite comparison with the GIMP.

Do you have any criticism more specific than that you don't like GIMP? Does Krita's interface closely mimic Photoshop's or what? What is your actual point?

Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by justin66 »

pekk wrote: post #14
justin66 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not once in that demo video did I see the usability monster leap out and try to stomp on anyone's balls. So it doesn't really invite comparison with the GIMP.

Do you have any criticism more specific than that you don't like GIMP? Does Krita's interface closely mimic Photoshop's or what? What is your actual point?

> Do you have any criticism more specific than that you don't like GIMP?

I don't like GIMP specifically because of its user interface.

Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by Domenic_S »

GigabyteCoin wrote: post #5
zeruch wrote: post #2

I actually think this is great. I've enjoyed using Krita (even though its sometimes a PITA to get setup) and its rapidly surpassing everything GIMP spent a dozen years trying to pull off. Make it crossplatform and you have a BIG win.

it[']s rapidly surpassing everything GIMP spent a dozen years trying to pull off. Standing on the shoulders of giants certainly makes it easier to see.

Haha, cute, but it sure hasn't helped GIMP (the giant in that case being PS).

Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast »

GigabyteCoin wrote: post #5
zeruch wrote: post #2

I actually think this is great. I've enjoyed using Krita (even though its sometimes a PITA to get setup) and its rapidly surpassing everything GIMP spent a dozen years trying to pull off. Make it crossplatform and you have a BIG win.

it[']s rapidly surpassing everything GIMP spent a dozen years trying to pull off. Standing on the shoulders of giants certainly makes it easier to see.

why would you want to stand on the shoulders of GIMP

Re: FOSS Photoshop killer Krita may release on Steam [video]

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Post by asdfs »

justin66 wrote: post #15
pekk wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any criticism more specific than that you don't like GIMP? Does Krita's interface closely mimic Photoshop's or what? What is your actual point?

> Do you have any criticism more specific than that you don't like GIMP? I don't like GIMP specifically because of its user interface.

Can you go into more detail? I often wonder what issues people have with GIMP's UI.
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