Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
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Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#2Actually, the Conseil d'État just released its decision a few minutes ago: Google have to pay. See http://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/communiques-de-presse/sanction... (in French).
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#3Actually, the Conseil d'État just released its decision a few minutes ago: Google have to pay. See http://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/communiques-de-presse/sanction... (in French).
According to the article it's not about the money, it's about the publicly displayed apology that google is uncomfortable with.
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#4Actually, the Conseil d'État just released its decision a few minutes ago: Google have to pay. See http://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/communiques-de-presse/sanction... (in French).
Le Conseil d'État is a French institution whose decisions can be broken (sadly) by European courts.
I think Google is not fighting for its reputation, but if they pay now they will open the door to more fines from over countries.
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#5Actually, the Conseil d'État just released its decision a few minutes ago: Google have to pay. See http://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/communiques-de-presse/sanction... (in French).
According to the article it's not about the money, it's about the publicly displayed apology that google is uncomfortable with.
So they are perfectly happy to admit liability and pay up, as long as they aren't forced to publicise that admission to the people that the court case itself was on behalf of.
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the article it's not about the money, it's about the publicly displayed apology that google is uncomfortable with.
So they are perfectly happy to admit liability and pay up, as long as they aren't forced to publicise that admission to the people that the court case itself was on behalf of.
Yep, I think that sums it up. The fine is pocket money for Google so surely it's not about that.
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the article it's not about the money, it's about the publicly displayed apology that google is uncomfortable with.
So they are perfectly happy to admit liability and pay up, as long as they aren't forced to publicise that admission to the people that the court case itself was on behalf of.
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Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#8Actually, the Conseil d'État just released its decision a few minutes ago: Google have to pay. See http://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/communiques-de-presse/sanction... (in French).
According to the article it's not about the money, it's about the publicly displayed apology that google is uncomfortable with.
The CE also decided that Google have to go with that. They said that anyway it's okay for Google to say that they do not agree with the decision and that they are waiting for the final decision of the "juge de fond"¹, alongside with the CNIL message (the apology) they have to display, so it won't be such a problem for there reputation.
The thing to know is that, since it is very difficult to quantify how much damage (in €) would be implied by the displayed apology, the CE would certainly not have maintained this punishment if they weren't almost sure that the "juge de fond" will take the same decision (otherwise France would have to reimburse an uncomputable amount).
¹ no idea how to translate "juge de fond" in English, but the idea is that this time it was a fast-track procedure in which Google asked to waive the sanction while waiting for the "deep" procedure to take place. This is what have been rejected by the CE.
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the article it's not about the money, it's about the publicly displayed apology that google is uncomfortable with.
So they are perfectly happy to admit liability and pay up, as long as they aren't forced to publicise that admission to the people that the court case itself was on behalf of.
This time, yes, because it's about privacy and the CNIL can't do much more than 150,000€.
But France also asks Google for 1 billion € of unpaid taxes over the last years, and this time I guess they will really try to avoid paying (hopefully they won't be able to, but we'll see).
Re: Google refuses to pay French privacy fine in a battle of company versus country
#10Well this isn't going to go well for Google. At least I sure hope it doesn't. When corporations trump nation-states, we're all screwed.