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Microsoft, Past and Future

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Re: Microsoft, Past and Future

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Contractor problems. I have a second hand Surface Pro. Its much lighter than a laptop, but more powerful than the laptop I had before. It runs Visual Studio, Eclipse and all the other tools I need very well. When I'm at a client site or at home I can use the USB port to dock into monitor, keyboard and ethernet. When I'm in meetings I make notes with the pen. When I'm in between on the train I can use it in tablet mod…

I've done a bit of development on a 7" tablet and it's kind of painful, even if you're using "just" a text editor (or an IDE like Eclipse with most of the chrome hidden). At some point you start hitting some physical limits of the human body. At 7" or 8" you can't have a full-size physical keyboard and there are only so many lines of code you can fit onto the screen, and so forth. Personally (and I do mean this is pe…

That's why I dock it via USB

Re: Microsoft, Past and Future

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How was Netscape shut out of Windows?

Aside from the fact that IE being bundled made it far less likely for someone to go looking for another browser, they were shut out from being bundled by OEMs and ISPs through restrictive covenants[0][1]. It obviously wasn't impossible to install Netscape, but situations where Netscape was the user's first entry to the web became extremely unlikely. This isn't really controversial, it was one of the major factors of…

Sure but calling this 'shutout' is pretty abusive of language to me. Is Chrome shut out of modern macs? Safari does come bundled after all. And I don't consider the DoJ case to have any merit so there's no authority in it.

Re: Microsoft, Past and Future

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post #202

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Aside from the fact that IE being bundled made it far less likely for someone to go looking for another browser, they were shut out from being bundled by OEMs and ISPs through restrictive covenants[0][1]. It obviously wasn't impossible to install Netscape, but situations where Netscape was the user's first entry to the web became extremely unlikely. This isn't really controversial, it was one of the major factors of…

Sure but calling this 'shutout' is pretty abusive of language to me. Is Chrome shut out of modern macs? Safari does come bundled after all. And I don't consider the DoJ case to have any merit so there's no authority in it.

Agree with the language or not, it's the kind of thing that Google fears. Though things have changed a lot since 1998 and being bundled is nowhere near as important as it was then. Hell, PCs and laptops aren't as important as they were then.

Really, the situation Google needs to keep pressure on, to prevent a modern equivalent to what happened to Netscape, was almost acted out with Maps on iOS.

As for whether the case had any merit.. ok? What I said doesn't rely on the case having merit. Like I said, MS admitted to doing this.

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