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Re: Google shows support for LGBT Olympians

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Post by mmanfrin »

ck2 wrote: post #19

I realize the difference with Russia is that it is practically illegal for LGBT to exist but let's talk about the USA for a moment where 33 states refuse to consider legalizing gay marriage and a few are even testing of the idea of emergency suspending ALL marriages just so people who are gay cannot marry if they cannot be excluded separately. There are still plenty of places in the USA where you could be killed for…

    the difference is not by the state but by individuals.
And therein lies the distinction. We still have a long way to go, but our laws are structured and being structured in a way that protects those rights. Even though some states might be trying to push back the tide of tolerance, the momentum is seriously in the direction of equal rights. Every country has idiots and bigots, but when a state sponsors such bigotry, then the light should be shined on those wrongs. Our ignoble idiots exonerate actions of legislators and leaders in Russia.

Re: Google shows support for LGBT Olympians

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Post by devilshaircut »

[deleted] wrote: post #21
devilshaircut wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Showing support for LGBT people == politics? Give me a BREAK.

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It is discussed by people on 'political' tv != it is political.

You can politicize anything you want. But there is nothing inherently political about showing support for an LGBT human being. 'What neoconservatives want to make political issues of' is an entirely different matter.

Re: Google shows support for LGBT Olympians

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Post by boyter »

devilshaircut wrote: post #30
boyter wrote: post #5

The LGBT Russia thing is totally blown out of proportion. http://www.scribd.com/doc/203382931/Russian-Lgbt-Law-White-P... Before you decide to down-vote me into oblivion and accuse me of hating minority groups please read the white paper linked above. Note I am not affiliated with the person who wrote it or scribd. I just want people to see both sides of the argument. EDIT - And what a surprise down-voted. Seriously…

"Both sides of the argument." That Russia has a reasonable political platform regarding its LGBT citizens? I am not sure that it is possible to 'blow out of proportion' what is most certainly a human rights issue. This was your own assertion, not that of the paper's. The topic was the Google Doodle showing support for LGBT people and your first impulse is to imply that the situation in Russia is in fact a non-issue.…

I didn't say it was a non-issue. I said it was overblown. The current media coverage of the issue is overblown. I belive I am being down-voted because this is a sensitive issue. Anyone suggesting that perhaps its not as bad as it seems is instantly shouted down.

Please, please, please read the linked white paper. It is well researched, well written and provides citations and sources to its conclusions. It is also written by a lawyer who identifies themselves as part of the LGBT community.

If nothing else, scroll down and read the translation of the Russian Federation law in there (the only good version I could find) and really think on what it means to the individual.

Re: Google shows support for LGBT Olympians

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Post by devilshaircut »

Sergiu37 wrote: post #26

Well the olympics already discriminates against mens in women competitions and vice versa. But anyway LGBT support or condamnations is pure bullshit and should not be in the Olympics. To much sex talking. Just because there's so much sexual media doesn't mean that the LGBT should get their part of the attention on the news. We should go the other way and talk less about sex in the media.

LGBT rights is not a topic inherently related to sex or sexual media. Just want to make that distinction.

Re: Google shows support for LGBT Olympians

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Post by olegious »

boyter wrote: post #5

The LGBT Russia thing is totally blown out of proportion. http://www.scribd.com/doc/203382931/Russian-Lgbt-Law-White-P... Before you decide to down-vote me into oblivion and accuse me of hating minority groups please read the white paper linked above. Note I am not affiliated with the person who wrote it or scribd. I just want people to see both sides of the argument. EDIT - And what a surprise down-voted. Seriously…

Thank you for linking to this. Finally someone taking the time to actually discuss the law and its consequences rather than rehashing the same breathless bs that is printed and repeated in the media.

Re: Google shows support for LGBT Olympians

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Post by seivan »

Sergiu37 wrote: post #26

Well the olympics already discriminates against mens in women competitions and vice versa. But anyway LGBT support or condamnations is pure bullshit and should not be in the Olympics. To much sex talking. Just because there's so much sexual media doesn't mean that the LGBT should get their part of the attention on the news. We should go the other way and talk less about sex in the media.

I guess it's not really your fault that you connect LGBT ot sex. Your society really did fail you.
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