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Re: AltSlashdot

#11
Slashdot was a pretty big deal to me in the late 90's. Obviously due to the technical content, but more importantly because I actually ran my dorm room site on slashcode for a while.

This site has done a better job with content for me, but I'm not sure my college-age self would want to use the code for a personal site (I'm thinking about function, not language choice). It would be nice if the go-to place for content was also a great platform for learning; something akin to what a Ramones album is for a guitar playing teenager.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2001/04/i_wann...

Re: AltSlashdot

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post #11

Slashdot was a pretty big deal to me in the late 90's. Obviously due to the technical content, but more importantly because I actually ran my dorm room site on slashcode for a while. This site has done a better job with content for me, but I'm not sure my college-age self would want to use the code for a personal site (I'm thinking about function, not language choice). It would be nice if the go-to place for content…

> something akin to what a Ramones album is for a guitar playing teenager.

Couldn't agree more. Blitzkrieg bop is as infectious and fun to play as it is easy to pick up.

Re: AltSlashdot

#13
Seems to be starting from a technical place to replicate slashdot. Slashdot is a great site and the new beta sucks, however I would try and take what works (Curation & community (and historically moderation)). Slashdot kept its relevance for many people because of the community and the curation. I read hacker news for the most up to date feed, But I read sites like slashdot for their insight and summarisation. Not being so caught up in the moment means the stories often have more information available, and are less likely to "jump the gun".

I wouldn't use slash code though. Slashcode is older style perl code, hacked as was required to keep slashdot running on modest hardware at a time (less powerful then your phone) where it composed of a significant portion of internet traffic. This means that your going to have a whole pile of technical debt that your going to have to deal with.

You would be better off with a new minimal interface + moderation system (hell make it look like old slashdot, just build it in ). I would even say taking the HN interface and simply reducing the number of articles in half, and adding a blurb to each article would get you a quick start.

I really want the slashdot to be reborn, but I think this will be more a case of a spiritual successor shall succeed as opposed to a clone. Slashdot worked because Cmdr. Taco was strongly interested in journalism and technology and brought those two together to make Slashdot.

Re: AltSlashdot

#14
"Registered "AltSlashdot.org", also ".com" and ".net"."

If that name is temporary, why bother with more than one domain?

How many alternatives to HN spin up? How many last? I'd be confirming whether the interest was there before I got stuck on too many details like legal and load balancing.

I was once involved with an overly broad community-built site that jumped to details before core content. It started to breakdown round about when we got caught up voting on the voting process. That deterred the 'doers' who had practical skills and so not much was done after that.

Re: AltSlashdot

#15
post #7

...this is only just now being realized? The site took a dive quite some time ago, with Rob Malda's departure it was effectively quite dead and buried. Now this - is their "Digg" moment.

I don't know - the look is new and sleek compared to their current live look, but the functionality seems approximately the same.

Re: AltSlashdot

#17
It's weird, I switched over to reading slashdot through an RSS reader (desktop app, then Google Reader, now NewsBlur) like 7 or 8 years ago. Mixed in with everything else the content is still decent and original and different enough I appreciate it. I haven't been on the actual site in ages. At a glance it looks acceptable.

Re: AltSlashdot

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post #13

Seems to be starting from a technical place to replicate slashdot. Slashdot is a great site and the new beta sucks, however I would try and take what works (Curation & community (and historically moderation)). Slashdot kept its relevance for many people because of the community and the curation. I read hacker news for the most up to date feed, But I read sites like slashdot for their insight and summarisation. Not be…

Apparently the Beta ruins the moderataion/metamod system. That's a fatal mistake IMHO.

Slashdot has the best moderation system I've seen implemented on any forum (note: it is more than implemented, it's been grown, including the metamod culture).

Re: AltSlashdot

#19
As I commented there, everybody concerned with this (especially the slashdot staff doing the change) needs to watch this talk by the people at Fark on how they failed - and recovered from - their "You'll get over it" moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnVeysllPDI

This is one of the best discussions I've ever found about what is the most important lesson in running a "social" site: you involve your user in everything (do NOT surprise them with forced changes), or your members will find a new place to go hang out.

Re: AltSlashdot

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post #15
post #7

...this is only just now being realized? The site took a dive quite some time ago, with Rob Malda's departure it was effectively quite dead and buried. Now this - is their "Digg" moment.

I don't know - the look is new and sleek compared to their current live look, but the functionality seems approximately the same.

New... yes, the look is certainly new compared to 'classic' slashdot. Sleek is not a term I'd use for it though, and when it comes to functionality the beta falls flat on its already flat face. It wastes space, makes it hard to follow threads, is fully JS-dependent, lacks contrast (but this is easily solved), contains images where none should be, etc. Realise that many of the complaints are made by those who currently use the 'classic' version of slashdot, often combined with the 'light' option to get rid of images. This is not the version you see when you just view the site as a passing visitor. Compared to the 'classic' site, especially when combined with the 'light' option, the beta is a dysfunctional riot of wasted space and script.
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