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Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

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Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#101
I think there is some truth to the article, but not that much.

Yeah, 5" devices are a nice size and make people somewhat less likely to reach for their tablet when reading. But is a 5" screen going to replace a textbook? or a magazine? or a kiosk? are people going to want to watch a movie on their phone?

It's all of the above - phones, tablets, laptops. Depends on what you are doing.

But fact is, many are now using tablets instead of laptops. Tablets are simply a more pleasant experience for causal use. And a lot of computer use is casual - reading, surfing the web, games, email, facebook.

So IMO tablets trend up in the long term, laptops trend down. But neither die.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

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I never really got tablets - too big to be portable and crippled by the lack of usable input devices. My 11" Macbook Air is just about as portable as an iPad, but is way easier to use, not just for streaming, but even for coding, etc. Of course, I've been wrong about things before and I'm not really a typical consumer user, but I just can't imagine a future for tablets with phones getting as good as they are, and sma…

Have you ever seen a child use a tablet? It's mind-blowing to see a 3 year old use one better than their parents. I don't think tablets will ever replace laptops, but that's not the point of consumption is it. They'd rather you buy a laptop for "work" a tablet for "consumption" and a phone, and...

Two weeks ago, I went to a birthday party for a kid we know. His dad works for google and there are a lot of tablets in the house. I was outside eating barbeque, then went inside, and not hearing any noise, went into the kids playroom thinking they were all asleep. All five were sitting on the sofa playing the same game of minecraft. There was a nexus 7 on the floor that had evidently been drained of battery. My son had plugged his in (I carry a micro-usb cord and converter in my pocket for events like this). Their ages: 5 to 9.

They played for an hour solid, only speaking to each other to discuss in-game stuff, like: how do you make arrows, or who has strings...

Not once did they ask parents for help.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#104
On the contrary. Tablets are finally beginning to get good.

Android Tablets support multiple users. Active stylus support is becoming natural (Surface Pro, Dell Venue Pro, Galaxy Note and Galaxy Tab Note). Tablets are beginning to treat HTML5 pages more consistently.

Its still a while out before Tablets become amazing, but I'm going to be grabbing one soon (Dell Venue Pro 8 + Active Stylus) because they're finally good enough to be on my radar.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#105
This is silly. Expectations for phones and tablets are crazy, specifically when talking about apple.

I read things daily that say apple is done for talking about both phones and tablets. The market share numbers aren't THAT important when we are talking about numbers as big as we are. In the mid 90's, when Microsoft "Won" and Apple lost the global PC market was ~50 million. Apple alone sold more tablets than that last year, and they sold more phones than that last quarter.

They don't have to sell 200 million tablets and phones per quarter. Apple is going to die or get crushed because Android has more market share, and tablets aren't going away either.

The only reason tablet sales haven't gone to the moon like some people predicted, is that they misunderstood the replacement cycle. It's not something that needs to be replaced every year or two like a phone. My iPad 2 is still just fine. I would love to have an iPad air because it is nicer, but the functionality is pretty much the same. In another year or two it might get to the point where i want/need to upgrade. But that is 4-5 year replacement cycle, not 1-2.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#106
There is an interesting commonality here, everyone "grew up" with computers. Tablets aren't computers, they are smart displays, and that dissonance seems to grind sometimes.

The Kindle/Nook concept of a tablet is pretty straightforward, keep it as cheap as possible and let be your portal into a bunch of pre-created content. I used my iPad and my Nook HD this way, I've got 45 books I carry around in my messenger bag that used to sit on the shelf at home. I've got over a 150 datasheet/appnote/technical manuals in PDF form which works ok on "large" (>= 9") screens. I've got Evernote to index stuff and 1dollarscan to convert things that I can't purchase in a compatible format. I've got a few thousand hours of music I like which I can stream to headphones to keep the noise of the world out.

That is the stuff tablets are really good at. I've got a Lenovo laptop to do code development and computing on. I don't bother trying to do that stuff on a tablet because it makes no sense to me.

A long time ago, people would have a room in their house just to hold the books and references they needed. That became less useful when information was available on the network, but it has become useful again as the network information has become polluted and sometimes vanishes inexplicably. The key though is having an indexing system, which Evernote seems to be a good start at.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#107
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly how I use my tablet too. I use my computer all day writing code, so when its time to relax with some Netflix, or an ebook I grab my tablet instead. Its perfect for laying on the couch or in bed. A phone definitely works in that case as well, but the tiny screen isn't as nice for reading and watching video. Not to mention by the end of the day my phone is usually mostly dead and its time to put it on t…

Its perfect for laying on the couch or in bed not for everyone though, as it emits light, and that is not what your body wants late at night. See example HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7057575 edit: I'm simply indicating staring at a screen late at night might not be all that good for us humans. Downvoting this doesn't make it any less true.

I suspect you're being down voted because article is discussing the merits between 3 devices, PC's, tablets, and phones, with the conclusion that phablets are the win in the end (with some fairly feeble 'evidence'). The fact that all three affect some peoples circadian rhythm isn't overly valuable to the conversation. Form factor is the discussion, and you're talking about light sensitivity in insomniacs. Water is a solid at -30c at sea level is also true, regardless of whether people down vote me. And neither are relevant to the article or the discussion being had.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#108
Battery life is probably as important as size for merging the tablet and phone markets. My tablet is effectively an extended battery for my phone. I could probably use my phone for everything I do on my tablet, but if I did, I'd be charging my phone 2-3 times a day.

As soon as the size gets more usable and battery life improves sufficiently, tablets will probably turn into a fringe device.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#109
Battery life is probably as important as size for merging the tablet and phone markets. My tablet is effectively an extended battery for my phone. I could probably use my phone for everything I do on my tablet, but if I did, I'd be charging my phone 2-3 times a day.

As soon as the size gets more usable and battery life improves sufficiently tablets will probably turn into a fringe device.

Re: Our Love Affair With the Tablet Is Over

#110
His main analysis is this: "It comes down to size. The vast majority of the hundreds of millions of people who use tech every day are just fine with having two primary computing devices: One for your pocket and one for your desk. " And in his opinion Tablet is neither.

My guess is that he hasn't extensively used a Nexus 7 tablet. It fits fine in my front and back pockets. I used it way more than my smartphone. And I rarely have the need to pick up my 10 inch tablet.

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