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Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web
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#32Time Berners Lee : "I would have got rid of the slash slash after the colon. You don't really need it. It just seemed like a good idea at the time."
When asked what he would have done differently!!
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#33The internet is decentralized, the web has never been. HTTP protocol doesn't support it. But it's time to do that. What we need is the possibility of peer-to-peer connections between browsers.
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#34My own rant on this from 2008 from a different perspective: http://timepedia.blogspot.com/2008/05/decentralizing-web.htm...
Excellent article and almost 6 years old. There are many projects to mention here but so far none of them took of as far as I know. Or did they?
After publishing my own rant about the same topic [0], Dave Winer commented via Twitter and argued that RSS is a very successful tool that decentralizes the web. I didn't understand his point at the time but today I think he is absolutely right.
His point was that when trying to fix the problem we should look at what already exists and works. Why did RSS succeed? Probably because it solved a problem for many people. It did not try to reinvent old things in a decentralized way but offered real benefits. Another good example for this git vs svn (centralized vs decentralized revision system).
[0] http://www.soa-world.de/echelon/2011/09/the-decentralized-we...
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#35It's great that Berners-Lee is saying this, but he'd have retained a lot more of his authority to pronounce on the future of the Web had he not thrown his weight behind the W3C's horrible plan to put DRM into HTML.
Let's crucify his for that :)
I hear what you are saying, but there is also reason for drm. Or we will have flash forever. What I am saying, I at least can understand why he did it.
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#36The IndieWeb movement is pushing the constructs built on top of the web into a decentralized form using self hosted content and webhook notifications.
Example: Comments on a blog post.
Given a blog post at URL A, comments are created by posting a note on your own site at URL B, then using a webhook to notify the blog that such a comment exists.
Your content cannot go away as long as you host it, and its not dependent on the blog's cooperation to be available, just to be findable.
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#37Wow, the giant flashing ad on the left of that article was so distracting I was unable to read the text. I eventually opened up the web inspector and just deleted the damn thing from the DOM.
I've gotten to the point where I just tune those out. I wouldn't have even known there was an advertisement on that page if you hadn't pointed it out.
Re: Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web
#38The internet is decentralized, the web has never been. HTTP protocol doesn't support it. But it's time to do that. What we need is the possibility of peer-to-peer connections between browsers.
Why do you say HTTP doesn't support it? If a browser doubled as a server, and each person hosted its own pages, how would that not be decentralized and P2P? Hell, it's been done: Opera Unite had just that model, with web pages and applications hosted by the browser itself: http://www.operasoftware.com/press/releases/general/opera-un...
The big problem with browser-as-server is that users typically want to power off their browsing devices, while they typically want servers to be always-on. Tying it through a cloud-hosted VPS or some local dedicated device (those wall-wart computers, or something else lightweight and low power but sufficiently capable), but then having the browser talk to it smartly (potentially from several devices simultaneously), would seem a better plan.
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#39Decentralizing the web won't really help when all communications flows throw a handful of telecom companies.
Re: Tim Berners-Lee: We need to re-decentralise the web
#40Wow, the giant flashing ad on the left of that article was so distracting I was unable to read the text. I eventually opened up the web inspector and just deleted the damn thing from the DOM.
AdblockPlus - I never even knew there was a giant flashing ad on the left of the article.