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Re: Securing a SoC is Not Easy

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Post by voltagex_ »

dynode wrote: post #60
voltagex_ wrote: post #6

The situation for hobbyists getting SoCs is terrible - I've got a MiiPC at home that won't be getting much use because Marvell won't release any documentation on it without an NDA

Which is why it drives me nuts when people refer to the Raspberry Pi as "open hardware". You can't get even close to the datasheet without an NDA.

It's open-er than say, the UDOO or Cubieboard. One of the things that the Pi has is an extremely large and active community - this helps with things like reverse engineering efforts.

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Post by KRuchan »

protopete wrote: post #56
KRuchan wrote: post #19

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Yes, would be happy to talk with your colleague and point him to the right contacts. I am at the San Diego headquarters.

I too would be interested in sourcing Qualcomm SoCs in small quantities. If you don't mind, please drop a note Attn:Pete at http://sensoray.com/support/receiveinfo.htm

Is there anyway to reach you? The form throws an error when I hit submit (I think you did receive my form,just that the 'thanks' page url is messed up)

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Post by KRuchan »

rdl wrote: post #43
KRuchan wrote: post #19

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Yes, would be happy to talk with your colleague and point him to the right contacts. I am at the San Diego headquarters.

I actually am in the SoC market too, and would love a contact in sales/pre-sales. SFBA.

Emailed you at your cryptoseal address.

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Post by KRuchan »

fit2rule wrote: post #33
KRuchan wrote: post #19

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Yes, would be happy to talk with your colleague and point him to the right contacts. I am at the San Diego headquarters.

I also have a need (and am also an avid OpenPandora groupie) for a SoC vendor - any chance I could get your contact info as well? I'd be very happy to consider Qualcomm for my project..

How do I reach you? Not too happy sharing a company/personal email address here and my name is too complicated to describe my ID in a email-address-extractor-safe way.

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Post by KRuchan »

ParadisoShlee wrote: post #58
KRuchan wrote: post #14

I work for Qualcomm and am surprised that the blog post author didn't consider our SoCs - it would meet all the requirements and I believe its not too much hassle to source from us.

What SOC would you believe to fit the project?

I am not familiar with the categories/collections of games Open Pandora caters to, to answer that. I would definitely recommend a high-end chipset (SnapDragon800/600)for someone building a gaming box. On the other hand,I see on wiki that Pandora intends to support older games through console emulators, so an older/cheaper GPU should be fine if those are the bulk of the targets.

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Post by KRuchan »

jwr wrote: post #25
YZF wrote: post #21

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That's not always the case. It depends how hungry they are. I was involved in a project that was clearly not going to require millions of devices. We were a small startup (though with some big partners). Texas Instruments really wanted to get their SoC into this segment though and we got a lot of their attention + pre-production samples + technical support. If this is an SoC looking for customers (like this was) and…

Yes, Texas Instruments does that, I had the same experience (were we involved in the same project?). They do it if they are strategically interested in a certain market segment. Your project might look like a demo to them — worth investing some time and effort into. Unfortunately, I'd say they are the exception. Good luck even getting someone at Broadcom or Qualcomm to speak to you. If your projected volumes are not…

Engineer at Qualcomm here - I did check with our biz dev folks and we have mechanisms in place to supply in smaller quantities (a few hundreds..)

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Post by jwr »

KRuchan wrote: post #66
jwr wrote: post #25

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Yes, Texas Instruments does that, I had the same experience (were we involved in the same project?). They do it if they are strategically interested in a certain market segment. Your project might look like a demo to them — worth investing some time and effort into. Unfortunately, I'd say they are the exception. Good luck even getting someone at Broadcom or Qualcomm to speak to you. If your projected volumes are not…

Engineer at Qualcomm here - I did check with our biz dev folks and we have mechanisms in place to supply in smaller quantities (a few hundreds..)

Interesting! Things might have changed, then. But to confirm: do you mean I can simply start developing a product based on Qualcomm chips (with projected volumes into hundreds or low thousands), and I'll get access to all the necessary documentation (datasheets, reference designs, etc)?

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Post by fit2rule »

KRuchan wrote: post #64
fit2rule wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a need (and am also an avid OpenPandora groupie) for a SoC vendor - any chance I could get your contact info as well? I'd be very happy to consider Qualcomm for my project..

How do I reach you? Not too happy sharing a company/personal email address here and my name is too complicated to describe my ID in a email-address-extractor-safe way.

boyikor@postalmail.biz is a tempmail I set up for the purpose ..

Re: Securing a SoC is Not Easy

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Post by userbinator »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #59
userbinator wrote: post #57

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Tried finding a public datasheet for e.g. Atom Z2460?

Hmm, this http://ark.intel.com/products/70098/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z24... looks pretty shallow. I wonder if there is a technical reference manual hiding somewhere on the site.

Documentation definitely exists, just not publicly.

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Post by KRuchan »

For anyone watching this thread, here's what I know about Qualcomm's offerings (through our embedded program partners) - 1. http://www.intrinsyc.com/products/qualcomm/dragonboard-devel... Intrinsyc is one of the partners who offers "Dragonboards" with the latest (so far, that will change soon) SoCs (APQ8064 and contemporaries). AFAIK, these boards can be ordered in any quantity from 1 to 100s, so they should be a good start for a development kit. Intrinsyc offers a Linux distribution for the 8074 SoM. Not too sure about the maturity of Linux support, but I am expecting updates in the near future, and will post them here. For those who need to eventually build their own boards using Qualcomm SoCs, Intrinsyc's FAQ here should be useful: http://www.intrinsyc.com/products/qualcomm/dragonboard-faq.a... 2. Inforce computing also offers a cute board with the APQ8064. http://www.inforcecomputing.com/product/qualcomm.html

Hope this helps!

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