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so, you have like a 128 Mb/s connection or something?..

Fast internet is not uncommon in The Netherlands. UPC[1] have 50, 120 and 200 Mb/s internet connections. [1]: http://www.upc.nl/internet/abonnementen/

In Finland:

DNA: http://www.dna.fi/uberkaista 350Mbit/s.

Sonera: http://www.sonera.fi/tutustu+ja+osta/nettiyhteydet/kodin+laa... 1Gbit/s.

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Hmm ... so the service looks to target what would be considered illegal in most countries yet has no meaningful way to hide the user's identity? Using a VPN will not help when subpoenas are coming down for release of CC/payment details with names, billing address etc. Am I missing something?

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In theory what you say makes sense, but then why is there still DRM? There's been strong evidence that it's useless for a long time already, and companies are still implementing it. What do you think will actually convince people to stop that hasn't happened already? I say it weakens the case because more piracy just inspires the knee-jerk reaction of "we have to do something to protect the children from pirated soft…

Thanks for responding. What you say makes sense as well, I guess we're really talking about two different arguments. One logical/reasoned (look, DRM has basically failed) and the other emotional (OMG piracy! We must have more DRM!). They're kind of orthogonal to my mind. >> In theory what you say makes sense, but then why is there still DRM? For a whole complex of reasons, some of which boil down to exactly what you…

>> I guess we're really talking about two different arguments

Right, and while I completely agree with your logical reason, my fear is that the emotional one is more prevalent and thus, the only one that will really determine future behavior.

I haven't considered "market segmentation" as a purpose of DRM - that's certainly interesting. I think the concept of market segmentation is unfair and manipulative, so I think this lends more weight to the commenter who suggested they feel a moral obligation to violate what copyright has become. Personally, I still prefer to pay for what I'm getting, and I just avoid products from companies who make that more difficult then it needs to be. But I see the viewpoint better now.

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Would it be that strange for HN folks? I'd imagine people from this community would be willing to get the best, or at least the fastest connection available. (I think I'm an exception, I have the lowest available option from my ISP, 40MBit)

I think you meant Mb with a small b. I guess they would, but this is a matter of providing that speed. I don't think 128+ Mb/s is very common, usually caps around 100 Mb/s in a lot of areas.

I don't think the capitalization of b matters as I wrote the full word "Bit" instead of just "B" (for Byte).

Anyways, my ISP has a 240Mbit plan.. and this is rather small city and Europe (not north or west either). I guess I just assumed SF (for example) would have even better options. Looking at other major ISPs around shows 100, 2x150 and 250 as top speeds.

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Because instead of an annonymous user, there is now a company to sue. I don't see them lasting unless they create copyright controls that will make most people not want to use them.

They exists for over 4-5 years now (I don't remember exactly the first time I discovered this service, but it was around that time). I believe the are located in an area where legislations are less strict and they can do this without having any problems.

That would explain it. Thank you.

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Is there a discipline that starts footnotes at 0?

Computer Science. Everything starts with 0.

What journals use this style of footnote formatting?

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> I can be watching a movie 60 seconds after thinking of it. Is that at all legal? Unless you mean films that have fallen into the public domain or that remain unlicensed in your nation or jurisdiction, I'm pretty sure this is unlawful. If there aren't laws on the books yet concerning a 3rd party service downloading or hosting pirated content on one's behalf yet, I would still consider this to be unethical behavior.…

Depends where you are in the world. In my country(Poland) downloading any material for your own use is 100% legal.

Though BitTorrent always includes uploading, too. That's the really risky part.

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Not respecting copyright in 2014 is a moral issue. It is good when authors can earn money on their work, and thus it used to be that authors had a deal with the government. Tax money is spent to enforce a limited monopoly for a few years, and afterward society could the work to the improvement of all. This deal has now been completely perverted, and all works stays perpetually under restrictions. Worse, In Sweden, we…

Same thing in France. Everything is taxed,cds,dvds,usb keys,hard drives because of the so called "private copying". I dont mind,the problem is "who's getting the money?why artist A and not artist B".And it's usually the artists that need it the less that get the most of these "revenues".

Here in Uruguay it's a really opaque method that determines how artists get money. It's determined by an organization called AGADU based on things like plays on public stations, etc:

http://www.agadu.com.uy/

Which collects money from plays and from public performances on behalf of artists.

IMO Local artists probably get more money than they'd have gotten otherwise, while foreign artists are probably underpaid (though Uruguayan revenue is very likely a rounding error for them).

I know of a person that works there, and I don't think they're scammers or mafia or anything, but the model is definitely outdated and I dislike a private organization having that kind of power (not to mention most artists never explicitly gave them representation power).

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