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Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

#31

This is too mean and angry to be a good parody. This one is better: http://friedisms.tumblr.com/page/4 (the one about monkeys is still my favorite).

Depends on your definition of parody. I think it fits Swiftian parody just fine.

Swiftian parody is not just mean. Actually, with some exceptions (like the "modest proposal"), it's not mean at all.

And, most important of all, to fit Swiftian parody it would have to be Swiftian-level good. This is subreddit level humor....

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

#33

That's not funny or educational or even interesting. It looks like jealousy or unfounded hate. I can't really think of anything 37signals has done to warrant this. They make good products and treat both their employees and customers well. Am I missing something?

>They make good products Do they? That isn't my experience. >treat […] their […] customers well Do they? That isn't my experience.

Isn't it? You don't seem to previde any specifics.

Plus, whether it's your experience or not is irrelevant. The general consensus is that they do both. You won't find many people in the industry believing otherwise, not many unsatisfied customers in their forums.

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They make good products Do they? That isn't my experience. >treat […] their […] customers well Do they? That isn't my experience.

Isn't it? You don't seem to previde any specifics. Plus, whether it's your experience or not is irrelevant. The general consensus is that they do both. You won't find many people in the industry believing otherwise, not many unsatisfied customers in their forums.

Most people 'in the industry' don't use their products, they just respect how slick their marketing is and how successful they are at making money.

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

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"Making simple software and charging heaps because we are hip and edgy..." Every time I see things such as these I think: 20-something, doesn't understand money ($20/month seems "too much"), doesn't understand business, not much sense of humor either, mostly pissed about other being succesful... The kind of people who write M$ with a dollar sign.

Yep, open source and free software is all great and dandy, until you try to make a living writing software, while trying to pay for the monthly bills.

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

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post #30

"Making simple software and charging heaps because we are hip and edgy..." Every time I see things such as these I think: 20-something, doesn't understand money ($20/month seems "too much"), doesn't understand business, not much sense of humor either, mostly pissed about other being succesful... The kind of people who write M$ with a dollar sign.

Yeah, and it bashes them for not having big-money VCs and having to bootstrap and thus having to be more frugal and charge more. In my mind that makes 37signals more "independent" than companies with big-money VC backers.

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

#38

That's not funny or educational or even interesting. It looks like jealousy or unfounded hate. I can't really think of anything 37signals has done to warrant this. They make good products and treat both their employees and customers well. Am I missing something?

>They make good products Do they? That isn't my experience. >treat […] their […] customers well Do they? That isn't my experience.

> That isn't my experience.

That is my experience.

Hmmm... I see we have reached an impasse.

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to plug DuetApp.

Very slick. I like the price as well. Unfortunately it's missing a few things that we need, such as Gantt charts, and a little better CRM features.

Hey. I'm the creator of http://duetapp.com. What CRM features would you need for the app to be useful to you?

Re: 67 Signals hasn't changed a thing

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Speaking of 37signals. I am looking for a good PM and CRM software. Either a piece of software that does both, or two separate that integrate nicely. Any suggestions? We are a Web company that handles projects including Web, Film, Photography and design. We might be developing one in house if we can't find one that meets our needs.

I spent ages looking for project management solutions and settled upon http://www.liquidplanner.com/ which I'm very happy about.

I blogged about why I made the choice, i.e. what it has that other tools doesn't, here: http://www.databasesandlife.com/liquid-planner/

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