This looks more like an overloaded residential gateway.
Overloaded just to AWS? Seems strange.
Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
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Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#112I just spun up an EC2 instance (US-East) and threw a bunch of 100MB-1GB test files on it. I'm on Verizon FiOS here at home, residential service, and they all downloaded at ~20Mb/s, which is the line speed I'm paying for. Anecdotally, I watch Netflix every night and haven't noticed a buffering/quality issue. I'll have to try the download test again later.
Just FYI - I'm only seeing the slowdowns in the evening.
Does your boss live in close proximity to you?
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#113I'm not sure I believe any of this for reasons others have pointed out. But let's say it's true. Is this an argument for or against Net Neutrality? By most accounts I read NetFlix is responsible for 30% + of evening internet traffic. Kind of staggering. If an ISP actively throttled Netflix people would leave that ISP for another one that didn't throttle Netflix Netflix is clearly a hugely popular service with enough…
Well, there are two problems with that scenario. 1) There may not be other services in the area - or all services throttle. Your only solution is to move house. 2) The user may not realise it is their ISP which is the problem. "NetFlix sucks - it's so slow. But TimeWarnerCastPlayer is awesome - it's so fast!" NetFlix isn't "squeezing" anyone. Customers are requesting data through their ISP, NetFlix are sending it as…
Netflix has an ISP tracker on their site that shows performance by ISP. Trust me, if they know your ISP is a "throttler" they have the ways to get this in front of you and highlight "Hey you're having a crappy experience because you're using X and they throttle us. Y wants your business and will give you a $150 coupon to change. Click here now"
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#114Slightly off topic: I'm very lucky to live in the Netherlands if I compare the average speeds, even with the mediocre ISPs, with the rest of the countries where Netflix is active. See: http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/netherlands
You can't really compare a small densely populated country such as the Netherlands to a huge country with large rural areas such as the United States. If you live in an urban area here (such as the Bay Area) you get excellent speeds as well.
What bay area do you live in and who is your ISP?
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#115I would not take some offhanded remark from an outsourced, minimum wage, offshore worker as confirmation of anything.
The title of this article is also very misleading. Did not find any reference to the neutrality law in the article.
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#116I'm not sure I believe any of this for reasons others have pointed out. But let's say it's true. Is this an argument for or against Net Neutrality? By most accounts I read NetFlix is responsible for 30% + of evening internet traffic. Kind of staggering. If an ISP actively throttled Netflix people would leave that ISP for another one that didn't throttle Netflix Netflix is clearly a hugely popular service with enough…
How is it squeezing out other traffic? A packet is a packet, under the net neutrality model all packets are routed equally. Capping packet flow from a provider would be like Subaru owning chunks of the national highway and setting a limit on the number of Toyotas that are allowed to be driving at a time. If Verizon doesn't have the capacity to support the evening demand, they should increase their shitty infrastructu…
Most networks see a degradation in performance at peak times. That reduction in performance can result in all types of behavior. You may not watch a clip, may click away from a site etc that's loading too slowly (and that would otherwise load fine and capture your view a few hours earlier)
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
By far the most correct observation. These guys are just following a script - they probably don't even know what half of the words mean. Please don't read anything into it or assume the outsourced support is somehow privy to anything at all that goes on inside Verizon other than what the FAQ system he's using tells him on screen.
The netflix data itself points to a gradual lowering of bandwidth to their service. Now here's 2 scenarios : 1) Verizon decided to enter some router configurations that affect the packet forwarding to Netflix (well, most likely FROM netflix, as the internet is not actually symmetrical). What we should see as a result of this is a sudden change in bandwidth. 2) The load on the interfaces in between is changing, either…
NetFlix actually offers peering for ISPs:
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/faq
This is a boon for indie ISPs who are too small to host a cache as the bandwidth is cheap and it makes Super HD streams available. I wouldn't call NetFlix a bad netizen.
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#119I'm not sure I believe any of this for reasons others have pointed out. But let's say it's true. Is this an argument for or against Net Neutrality? By most accounts I read NetFlix is responsible for 30% + of evening internet traffic. Kind of staggering. If an ISP actively throttled Netflix people would leave that ISP for another one that didn't throttle Netflix Netflix is clearly a hugely popular service with enough…
Most people in the US don't have a choice in their ISP.
Interesting. That's news to me. The majority of people in the US really only have one choice?
Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?
#120I'm not sure I believe any of this for reasons others have pointed out. But let's say it's true. Is this an argument for or against Net Neutrality? By most accounts I read NetFlix is responsible for 30% + of evening internet traffic. Kind of staggering. If an ISP actively throttled Netflix people would leave that ISP for another one that didn't throttle Netflix Netflix is clearly a hugely popular service with enough…
> leave that ISP
There's your flaw. Most people have 0, 1, or 2 choices for ISP. And those ISPs offer similarly sucky service.
Compare US bandwidth rates to modern countries, and you'll see that the US businesses are not in any way competing with each other to the benefit of the consumer.